Instead of comparing Sam to Richard Horne, why not compare him to Edwards or Lockyer? Both who were played at FB when starting out?? Then moved up to 6 when older, more experienced and ready?

Tomkins should not play Full-Back. Simple as. Lockyer and Edwards are different people, with totally different attributes, yes there all played well at FB then moved to the Half-Back area. But no way, we need to either buy or produce a guy for that the FB position, Tomkins as to stay at the Number 7 spot, next year the new 6 and him and Tommy all playing the triangle. Mid-season signing next year a FB, when it’s finally realised we do need a good one, not someone that is average in that area.

B. Anasta played at FB for Roosters at the weekend, played sh ! Te.

I’d rather see Ainscough in the FB spot, if the attacking team puts the bomb put from 30-40metres out, we’ll pretty much screwed anyway whether Richards/Phelps or Roberts are playing FB running round like headless chickens as the ball comes down, so for that, I’d much prefer to see Ainscough, collecting the ball on the try line and running at the line, tackle busting/ clean breaking for fun!! More chance of going from our end to theirs, with Ainsy, compared to Phelps/Richards and Roberts, who have all played there and how often do they beat the first man?

Cameron Phelps
Amos Roberts
Martin Gleeson
George Carmont
Pat Richards
Sam Tomkins
Thomas Leuluai
Andy Coley
Mark Riddell
Paul Prescott
Harrison Hansen
Phil Bailey
Sean O'Loughlin

Joel Tomkins
Michael McIlorum
Iafeta Paleaaesina
Gareth Hock

Changed slightly from my other line-up after thinking like a Noble

4 Second Rowers for me

I cant help but be disapointed that Ainscough is out the team , i know its not the fashionable view at the minute but there is no way karl pryce should be ahead of him. Jobs for the boys without a doubt.

I'm on about next year. The next Rob Burrows comes to mind with Tomkins, if only he'd be first reciever, next year once he's gained the experience, ducking and dipping under tackles. Taking the line on.

Nothing like Burrow. Tomkins doesn't play anything like him. He plays more like a young Shaun Edwards. Sam needs a quality 7 to play off and learn from, like Edwards had Greg.
You talk about not wanting to move him to FB but why move him from 6 to 7 when after watching him play he's clearly not a 7.
He's more like McGuire than Burrow, running off the 1st receiver as a second receiver, play to his strengths.


I would like to see Sam as a 6, but if you read my above post you'll see why I putting him at FB is a smart move.

You'd be happy with Orford then?

To me a partnership of Sam and Orford could work very well. Orford can do the kicking and organising and Sam can just play abit of a free role with a licence to just play his own game.

I worry about Orfords age a little and the fact that he's likely to only do 2 seasons over here but if it's going to push the team forward i'm all for it.

I think Orford would slot in very nicely and Sam would benefit 10 fold from the experience and knowledge of a top 7 like Orford.
Orford as the first receiver with Sam running off him as second receiver running with pace would work very well. Similar to if we signed Sean Long.

If Long would have never have left you could see the natural progression in the halves...

Edwards to Long to Tomkins. Think of the cr@p we've had in our halves since Long's been at Saints. And also imagine a Wigan team with Barrett and Long at 6 and 7, would have been awesome.

If that was the case wouldn't Pryce have played last week?

, and as this is cup rugby he's going for the safer option in pryce. Who also has been one of the stand out players in the reserves (still without looking like he's trying)......

Phelps
Richards, Carmont, Gleeson, Roberts
Sam, Leuluai
Coley, McIlorum, Prescott
Hansen, Bailey
Lockers

Riddell, Hock, Tuson, Feka

1- Phelps
2- Roberts
3- Gleeson
4- Carmont
5- Richards
6- O'Loughlin
7- Leuluai
8- Coley
9- McIllorum
10- Prescott
11- Hock
12- Bailey
13- Tomkins

14- S.Tomkins
15- Palea'aesina
16- Riddell (Covering Prop)
17- Hansen

18- Flanagan (Don't want to debut him in such an important game)
19- Pryce

Not sooner give Davies a go?

i think it would be quite a selfish thing to do. i know he is our player but the idea of him going on loan is for him to gain first team experience. for him to get the best use his time at the giants he needs to settle, not be pulled backwards and forwards, building up his hopes of breaking into our first team. i dont think the club would be so short sighted as to loan him out to recall him everytime we get a player banned. let him stay at huddersfield, build his experience up and come back to us a decent first teamer with plenty of match time under his belt

Pardon my ignorance I haven't watched him play sorry.

A game of this importance I would rather play Riddell at prop, if it was in the league I would maybe give young Davies a pop if all is to be believed about him written in the leaguer and on here.

Amos Roberts, George Carmont, Pat Richards, , Thomas Leuluai, Stuart Fielden, Mark Riddell, Iafeta Paleaaesina, Gareth Hock, Phil Bailey, Sean O'Loughlin, Joel Tomkins, Andy Coley, Harrison Hansen, Michael McIlorum, Paul Prescott, Karl Pryce, Cameron Phelps, Martin Gleeson, Sam Tomkins.



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why s feilden in the 19

Have to name the 19 before Fielden's case was up. Can replace him no problem.

Not nearly ready after his injury. Needs to put another stone on.
He may put Pryce on the bench, but that would be a risk IMO, so I guess it will be Joel Tomkins.

Beg to differ but we'll see.



At the moment, Joel looks to me like the perfect example of a lad who could do with a week off.

Well from't squad:

Phelps
Roberts
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
Sam
Tommy
Coley
McIlorum
Prescott
Hock
Bailey
Lockers

Feka
Joel
Hansen
Piggy

Not much vareity on the bench, seriously lacking in props but any of Piggy, Bailey, and Hock could play prop for a spell if needed IMO.

Also notcied Thornley is in the Salford squad, anyone know if he will be playing? or if he has been getting any game time? Cant say i've noticed.

Is Andrew the brother of Ian?

Yeah, and cousins of Sam,Joel and Logan i think

Cant see how it will be much different to that.

Looks like salford have pinched one of our songs and changed the words to fit around coley and going to wembley.