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| Quote ="smithovyick"I'm not gettin on his back but I do think that 10 mins each half is diabolical. If Riddell is the same then u gotta use 4 subs every game just 4 these 2 which is not good IMO'"
where does this '10mins each half' statistic come from?
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"where does this '10mins each half' statistic come from?'"
the 10 mins each half is comin from watchin him - e goosed after 10 mins
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| Quote ="smithovyick"the 10 mins each half is comin from watchin him - e goosed after 10 mins'"
Now how am I going to tell you this.
That's absoute cr@p
I would humbly suggest that you get yourself to your close friends at Knowsley Road and watch 10 minute Maureen.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Now how am I going to tell you this.
That's absoute cr@p
I would humbly suggest that you get yourself to your close friends at Knowsley Road and watch 10 minute Maureen.'"
born n bred wigan me pal - season ticket to boot - if u think feka is doin the side any good with his 10 min spells it's you who shud be goin knowsley road. We wastin 4 subs every game takin him n riddell off - not tactical subs they just cant do any more ffs - professional athletes you are avin a laugh
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| Quote ="smithovyick"born n bred wigan me pal - season ticket to boot - if u think feka is doin the side any good with his 10 min spells it's you who shud be goin knowsley road. We wastin 4 subs every game takin him n riddell off - not tactical subs they just cant do any more ffs - professional athletes you are avin a laugh'" Sorry but can't agree with you about feka he is doing more than you claim, But my point is he could do more if they wanted him to . The Substitutions are made by coaching staff decisions barring injury of course , although sometimes i do wonder about some of the timing used . 5 min before half time always confuses me .
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| Quote ="platt-warrior"I think our best forward tonight and for last 3 matches has been O'Carrol by a mile.'"
Agreed, he style of running is great, its helped with the fact he has a low centre of gravity and can be difficult to stop, just wish he was slightly bigger!
Quote Mr Fielden has been poor.'"
Mr Brain Fart, he gave away some stupid penlaties on Saturday and again looked non effective going forward. Still better than Coley.
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| O'Carroll was a league apart from the other props, Coley was again abysmal while I thought Fielden was poor and Feka wasn't good by his own standards.
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| Coley needs taking out the team for Prescott.
As for those that disagreed we needed another prop before the season, gone quiet now havent they.
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| Prescott was perhaps our best prop before his injury and really looked like he was going to fulfill his potential.
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| to be honest im still a big feka fan an he s a game breaker id pick him over coley who only gains 3 yards an fielden any day , yes he was nt that good other day but he could be m.o.m this week so you never no really fingers crossed but playing him for 10 mins last week s never any good , mind you at the minute he s lasting longer than piggy
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It's the modern game.
Manly took their prop off after 15 minutes tonight and Leeds did is shortly after.
Why is it that only Wigan fans complain?
Your getting suckered into it by outside influences.
Here's a fact, Feka plays more minutes than Maurie Fa'asavalu but he doesn't get half the criticism that Feka gets, despite Fekas stats being far better.
The same applies to Feka v Kyle Leuluai
[urlwww.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2008&stat=metres&hs1=2008&hp1=1135&hs2=2008&hp2=1950
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| Quote ="MadDogg"O'Carroll was a league apart from the other props, Coley was again abysmal while I thought Fielden was poor and Feka wasn't good by his own standards.'"
Fielden is averaging 3 metres per carry. Shocking statistic if true.
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| Quote ="RB"Fielden is averaging 3 metres per carry. Shocking statistic if true.'"
and seems to be a penalty machine at the mo
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| Quote ="RB"Fielden is averaging 3 metres per carry. Shocking statistic if true.'"
Fielden for half of 08 and 09 is probably playing marginally better than the shocking form he produced in 07 but I just don't understand what's happened to him when he takes the ball forward. He used to be unstoppable, shrugging tacklers off left, right and centre with good leg drive to go with it. Now he simply falls in the tackle like a floppy sock.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Fielden for half of 08 and 09 is probably playing marginally better than the shocking form he produced in 07 but I just don't understand what's happened to him when he takes the ball forward. He used to be unstoppable, shrugging tacklers off left, right and centre with good leg drive to go with it. Now he simply falls in the tackle like a floppy sock.'"
Dont forget about his wages either, we could get two quality props for the money he is on.
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| Quote ="RB"Fielden is averaging 3 metres per carry. Shocking statistic if true.'"
Where did you get that from?
Fielden is averaging over 7.2 metres per carry.
O'Carroll who everybody is applauding (and quite rightly) is averaging less.
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=metres&hs1=2009&hp1=29&hs2=2009&hp2=2304[/url
Who's next for the so called Wigan fans to have a go at.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Where did you get that from?
Fielden is averaging over 7.2 metres per carry.
O'Carroll who everybody is applauding (and quite rightly) is averaging less.
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=metres&hs1=2009&hp1=29&hs2=2009&hp2=2304[/url
Who's next for the so called Wigan fans to have a go at.
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What is interesting from those Stats is that Fielden has apparently made 15 tackle busts, that is actually 5 more than Feka.
Now without wnating to cast doubts on the accuracy of the information that figure surprised me to be honest.
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| i thought fielden had a good game against london. Made lots of tackles and ran in most of the time with a fair bit of aggression.
Some people just don't take in what they see in front of them and would rathe go with pre-conceived ideas regardless of form.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Where did you get that from?
Fielden is averaging over 7.2 metres per carry.
O'Carroll who everybody is applauding (and quite rightly) is averaging less.
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=metres&hs1=2009&hp1=29&hs2=2009&hp2=2304[/url
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Those stats have changed since I posted.
Why are you questioning my loyalty to Wigan?
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| Quote ="warriorweed"What is interesting from those Stats is that Fielden has apparently made 15 tackle busts, that is actually 5 more than Feka.
Now without wnating to cast doubts on the accuracy of the information that figure surprised me to be honest.'"
He made about 10 of those stood in the same place and then just fell to the floor.
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| Quote ="warriorweed"What is interesting from those Stats is that Fielden has apparently made 15 tackle busts, that is actually 5 more than Feka.
Now without wnating to cast doubts on the accuracy of the information that figure surprised me to be honest.'"
A bust will be recorded differently to Feka dragging 4 defenders 5 - 10 yards further down the pitch.
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| Quote ="warriorweed"What is interesting from those Stats is that Fielden has apparently made 15 tackle busts, that is actually 5 more than Feka.
Now without wnating to cast doubts on the accuracy of the information that figure surprised me to be honest.'"
Fielden always bounces out of tackles, in the quins match someone had him by the leg and it took quins players about three attempts to get him down because he kept knocking them off.
At the moment fielden is averaging over 100m per game which is a reasonable return, not great, but a different league to what he was doing this time last year. I don't get why people are picking on him at the moment.
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| Back on thread, I can't understand why there are never any set plays 10 or 15 out putting Feka in. Nobody would stop him !
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| Quote ="Unusual Suspect"Fielden always bounces out of tackles, in the quins match someone had him by the leg and it took quins players about three attempts to get him down because he kept knocking them off.
At the moment fielden is averaging over 100m per game which is a reasonable return, not great, but a different league to what he was doing this time last year. I don't get why people are picking on him at the moment.'"
His large wages that he doesn't justify
I think his form has dropped from the end of last season as well
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| Quote ="AJ"Coley needs taking out the team for Prescott.
As for those that disagreed we needed another prop before the season, gone quiet now havent they.'"
To be fair there weren't many of those as such. Most were saying that without getting rid of one of our existing props it would be unlikely we would get another in and this is still the case. Trying to offload Coley would probably be difficult at present and you can't just end his contract. The only other route would be letting one of the young lads go on loan but i don't really want to do that either as i think those two should be ideally battling it out between themselves for the 4th prop spot (although at the moment they should both get in ahead of coley).
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