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| Called it at the time, "game changer" Wire where on top, we needed something and this tackle changed it. I could not go for various reasons but as soon as I saw Smith shaking his head it confirmed my feelings. We needed to stop him, as his short spell was having an impact. The tackle was legal as Coley hit around the thigh. It worked!
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| Quote ="Lippy"Called it at the time, "game changer" Wire where on top, we needed something and this tackle changed it. I could not go for various reasons but as soon as I saw Smith shaking his head it confirmed my feelings. We needed to stop him, as his short spell was having an impact. The tackle was legal as Coley hit around the thigh. It worked!'"
Maybe I have interprited your post wrong but IMO at the speed of a rugby league game there is no way that the legal tackle from Coley had any intent whatsoever to cause injury to Solomona..
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| This constant carping of Wigan's tackling technique is getting boring!
For Gawd's sake Slobamona is so unfit he's probably had a bath lift fitted by Social Services to get him into the team bath
Pity the Wires fans didn't stay till the end .... they missed O'Loughlins try and the chance to thank their team for their CC exploits over the past two years. Silly me its only Wigan fans who do the "Walk" of course
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| Quote ="Lippy"Called it at the time, "game changer" Wire where on top, we needed something and this tackle changed it. I could not go for various reasons but as soon as I saw Smith shaking his head it confirmed my feelings. We needed to stop him, as his short spell was having an impact. The tackle was legal as Coley hit around the thigh. It worked!'"
Said he same thing myself. He was causing us problems and the injury slowed their momentum. We got a penalty just after and they never had the same level of continuous pressure again after that.
Watched the game back and I can't see too much wrong with the tackle. Mossop got him up top and Coley squeezed his legs together to stop him. Even Kear said nowt wrong with it. Just unfortunate for Solomona and wire and the change of momentum for us.
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| Quote ="WarriorSteve"Maybe I have interprited your post wrong but IMO at the speed of a rugby league game there is no way that the legal tackle from Coley had any intent whatsoever to cause injury to Solomona..'"
I'm drunk so who knows, I'm struggling to understand what I wrote. All I'm trying to say is, I called at the time, Solomona was tackled and was injured, it was a game changer. Tony Smiths reaction confirmed my feelings and so it proved. No way did Coley go in with the intention of injuring the player. I tried to stress this by saying he hit around the thigh. It was a tackle that changed the flow of the game.
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| Quote ="Lippy"I'm drunk so who knows, I'm struggling to understand what I wrote. All I'm trying to say is, I called at the time, Solomona was tackled and was injured, it was a game changer. Tony Smiths reaction confirmed my feelings and so it proved. No way did Coley go in with the intention of injuring the player. I tried to stress this by saying he hit around the thigh. It was a tackle that changed the flow of the game.'"
No worries mate ... so i am I ... what a great day... shame were all at home looking after the kids instead of getting bladdered down the boozer!!!
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| Time to ban second man in?
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| Quote ="WarriorSteve"No worries mate ... so i am I ... what a great day... shame were all at =#FF0000home looking after the kids instead of getting bladdered down the boozer!!!'"
That's me!!! but off to the semi finals with the kids I go. Taking a 5 year old and 5 month old to Warrington in a QF isnt my idea of fun.
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| Quote ="Lippy"That's me!!! but off to the semi finals with the kids I go. Taking a 5 year old and 5 month old to Warrington in a QF isnt my idea of fun.'"
After last years league game I won't take the kids there.
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| I getting increasingly fed up with other coaches/supports moaning simply because we do something better than they do.
Boring robotic rugby? do any of these people watch us play? And now the tacking technique? It's legal effective and precise. Whatever next? We'll be banned from playing Pat on the wing because he's called Pat, and that offensive to postmen nationwide.
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| Well at least John Kear called it right, said no problem with it, every club in Super League employs the 2 man tackle, 1 up, 1 down.
Detected signs in the week that Mr Smith was getting twitchy.
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| If he is going to talk about a fair, two man tackle, one upper body and one lower body (which you have to on a big guy overwise he would make another 10 meters) then its really sad. Had the upmost respect for most of his comments after the game and seeing him shake hands with the wigan players at the end, top bloke, top coach. Let's just hope any negatives are a heat of the moment type of thing.
upmost respect for him and his club (although seeing morley and briers face was a great feeling.)
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| [urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012tmh4/Rugby_League_Challenge_Cup_2011_QuarterFinal_Warrington_v_Wigan/[/url
1hr 22min in.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Its getting ridiculous now.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that tackle. He wasnt even stationary.'"
This.
Perfectly summed up, as soon as I saw Smith's reaction, you knew he was going to complain about the tackle though, its a common theme, lose to Wigan, have a whine about the tactics.
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| I thought it was a twist anyway? Its not like Coley crunched into his knee joint was it?
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| If Tony Smith wants to look at anyone it should be himself as head-coach for letting one of his players get so unfit. Solomona has always been a good with ball in hand, but he's disgracefully overweight for a professional athlete.
The tackle was neither illegal, nor malicious - it was round the legs of a player who was still in motion. End of.
And as for Solomona, if Wigan somehow spoiled Warrington's plans by "getting him carried off", then God help Warrington if a player in that condition is so vital to them.
The other day, when I said that Smith has emerged from his petulant era, I was clearly being over-generous. But then the guy probably feels a fool for labelling us 'boring' or whatever it was. We played 'the entertainers' off the park at their own game, outscoring 'the point-scoring machine' almost for fun.
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| And I still don't think Solomona got that ball down for his 'try'.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"We played 'the entertainers' off the park at their own game, outscoring 'the point-scoring machine' almost for fun.'"
Feeling kinda proud
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"And I still don't think Solomona got that ball down for his 'try'.'"
He got it down easily.... you should have gone to specsavers.
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| IIRC the Beeb commentary (Kear) referred to the tackle 'pinching/bring the knees together' but then went on to say it's a perfectly legal type of tackle to prevent further leg drives.
FFS, when I was taught to use a 2 man tackle it was always one high, one low. No attacks to the knees as that's cowardly.
The Beeb stated a twist to the knee, chances are that happened as Solomona went down, not as a direct impact of the tackle impact itself.
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| Just seen the incident and what the hell was the pointy nosed twitching idiot shaking his head at? If that's now an illegal tackle the games done for.
Maybe he was just shaking his head saying 'I told him he needed to lose some weight before his knees buckled'.
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| Quote ="Ron"He got it down easily.... you should have gone to specsavers.'"
Well I must have made it up then !
Solomona got held up. I have checked the coverage and it doesn't show him get the ball down at all.
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"Well I must have made it up then !
Solomona got held up. I have checked the coverage and it doesn't show him get the ball down at all.'"
Ok I will repeat, nip to specsavers in the morning, then watch the tape back, you may then see he clearly got the ball down.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"it doesnt look bad to the normal eye but it is a tackle that wigan have adopted which is a clear attack to the knee joint,a few weeks ago the exact same kind of tackle has left are own jacob emmitt out for between 6-8 weeks,its a very simalar scenario has the chicken wing tackle was to open up the shoulder joint and injure the player at the time it was aloud for a period of time before been made an illegal tackle due to the number of injuries to players.i can see this tackle been outlawed very soon and i understand why players and coaches get frustrated when a player gets injured and whilst its a legal tackle at the minute its the fact that some sides use it to injure players thats worrying in a game thats tough enough any way.'"
Rubbish. You are saying Wigan are deliberately setting out to injure players by attacking joints. Complete and utter rubbish.
Tackling a player "high and low" is how the game is played and has been for decades. Solomona's injury was bad luck. Nothing else. Watching it live I thought he was concussed because his head hit the ground a bit hard not that his knee was done because I could not see anything else to worry about. And that isn't bias it is EXACTLY what I thought at the time.
Smith was OK after match on the BBC in complimenting us on the attacking play maybe because he'd look a bit if a tit if he didn't after he pre-match comments but he should have left it at that.
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| Dave he actually praised Wigan attacking play in his pre-match interview as well....
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