Thank God your just a internet warrior from Chester then!

It is about time you grew up or stopped posting.

Dave

i Dont agree,

6 months - saved us.
1 year slow start - play offs
2 Year slow start - play offs final elimiator
3 year very slow start but didnt lose by many and now running some form up

Hes been rebuilding a team since he got here, We had oliver wilks, Jordan james,

Now i dont proclaim to know everything but im sure where in a better shape than when he took over.

Also what happens if he won the CC and GF would you still not rate him??

Would he not be good enough??

You will never convince the blind ones who dont like Noble no matter how much you try.

If we won every game CC final and Superleague final some on here would still be calling for him to go

Ive started to feel like its a lost cause!

Hes still one of the best coach in superleague.

deffo in the top dozen anyway

He is definitely the best British coach in Superleague and i for one would love him to get another 12 just to finish the job he came here to do. I think he has worked wonders with the club since he came pity some are so blinkered they cannot see just how much he has done for the club.

That isn't the glowing praise you make it out to be really.

And bar two players it was with a squad of players he inherited.



1st year clow start playoffs no tophies
2nd yesr slow start playoffs no trophies
3rd year very slow start - rest of season yet to come



The team he has built over three years has yet to match the consistency of the one he inherited in 2006. The fact that team in 2006 went from poor to really very good in a short space of time with just two players added too it shows it wasn't that bad a team to start with.



I would still want him to be replaced as I think he has taken us as far as he can. I think we need a different approach to kick on from here in a similar way to how Lowe moved us on from Clarke and McInnes.

Dave

It is actually i would us sooner have a British coach than an Australian i think we need to improve our own rather than keep going abroad for coaches even our national coach is not British in RL or Football and that is very sad.

Many 'Noble doubters' - and I wasn't always one, but I've been forced to it this season - have given considered views as to why they're concerned about Noble continuing at Wigan.

Are you sure you want to just dismiss those views as 'blinkered' or 'blind'? Without offering a proper counter-argument, doesn't that make you a little blinkered yourself?

And I don't think comparing and contrasting to when Millward was at the club tells the full story. There is more harmony behind the scenes than there was then. Quality youngsters have now grown up, but more importantly have been awarded contracts that have kept them at the club. Improvements like that could just as easily be put down to the new chairman as to the coach. After all, he was the one who read the Riot Act last season which galvanised us into making the play-offs. Noble didn't, even though it was his job to do that.

I can't help feeling that a lot of these calls for Nobby to keep his job - which, like it or not, have only started to appear en masse since we started our recent winning run - are a product of the usual end-of-season delusion. Only winning games at the end of the year is NO GOOD to us. We need a coach who can win games throughout the year - only then will we get back to the top of the table.

I have put my view forward on lots of occasions over the last 12 months. Nobles teams have always started slowly and not just at wigan and always been there or there abouts at the end of the season

Just because you'd rather have a British coach (and I think we'd all rather have decent British coaches) doesn't mean that he's any good.

His competition is McDermott, Agar, McNamara, and Kear.

Kear does a good job making average teams over achieve, McDermott looks to have some potential. The other two are poor. I wouldn't take any over Potter at Saints.

I'd put Noble below McClennan (won an International competition and been back to back SL champions), Smith (turned Leeds round and seems to be doing the same at Dire), Potter (purely for his work with Catalan, we've yet to see how he deals with a big club over a period of time), Morgan and Brown (both done well at unfancied clubs).

Someone made a comment about Radlinski not making any comment about Noble, I've heard a similar story about other players. They tend to talk about certain things ex coaches did that they liked, no one seems to talk about Noble.

Noble is in the top 4 coaches in Great Britain. And from what i here out of Saints is that most of the coaching is done by the senior players not Potter band its been this way for some time.

You had very good foundations laid down with McRae and Hanley and this set up your winning culture and coaching set up on the other hand we were mismanaged for years and it takes time to sort it all out and get back on track.

I don't agree.



I must say that I doubt that, whilst they may have an input, I can't see them doing 'most of the coaching'. That kind of shambolic set up would not have been successful for so long. That sounds like the kind of crappy rumour that is spread by someone with a beef against either the club or the coach.







Jeez, how far back do you want to go? They finished at Saints 10 years ago, that's plenty of time for it to be undermined by poor management and coaching.

Whilst you have been mismanaged, that has little to do with Noble's ability.

Still one ofthe top 3 coaches in the league, he brings out the best when it matters.

Does it not matter all season?

I mean seriously - if you lose most of your games in the first half of the season, surely it stands to reason that it's much more difficult to gain a foothold in the top 2 by the end of the season?

That might explain why Wigan have finished nowhere near the top 2 for the past several seasons.

Unfortunately the best isn't quite good enough to get to the Grand Final these days after sacrificing the first 2/3s of the season.

Nor does a team to be there for simply coming good at the end. Noble needs to book his ideas up next year or Wigan need to move on to get to the next level.

My problem with Noble is that he has almost 3 years at the club and until recently, the same problems remain. Our performances are inconsistent, our attacking tactics are conservative (and predictable), our discipline is poor and our ball possession is awful at times. I'm not even going to mention his squad selections or the way he uses substitutes, which are also weaknesses IMO. More importantly, the collective motivation of the team has been questionable at several times during his tenure - leading to the chairman making a public statement to that effect last season, i.e trying to embarrass his coach/players into bucking up their ideas.

It seems to me that we need a crisis of some kind to spur a winning streak and the kind of cohesion we're seeing from the squad at the moment. We had to fight to avoid relegation, last year it was leaving ourselves a mountain to climb in the play-offs; this year, we've had Hock's suspension and injuries. Whilst I'm happy the coach has capitalised on a siege mentality to spur the team on - I can't help but wonder where this level of commitment and motivation was during the first part of the season. IMO this reflects poorly on the coaching staff as much as the players themselves.

Those who claim this late season winning streak is Noble's style or strategy are deluding themselves IMO. There is no planning here. In fact, I suspect another reason why the players have raised their game is that they know the coach will leave and they want to send him off in the best possible style.

If we managed to win the CC and the Grand Final, I would be absolutely delighted. But I would still like to see a new coach next year - comparisons with the transition between Clarke/McInnes and Lowes are apt. We need a coach to innovate our tactics and take us to the next level strategically.

An excellent contribution. Difficult, if not impossible, to argue with any of that.

I appreciate it is unlike me to be so quiet on the Noble topic but i have been rocked with the swine flu and really the last thing i was in the mood for was reading the posts on the matter.

I have to say I agree with the post above by phibes except for the conservative tactics which have improved this year, other than that though the same errors have remained with us during his time with the club. To date he has been with the club 3 years and in that time we have in my opinion seen to date combined 16-20 weeks worth of acceptable performance which simply is not enough.

Am I reading to much into this or does your post imply that Noble will be here next season?



You better now mate? I had it 2 weeks ago, it certainly isnt plesant.

Apart from wakey at home and celitc away i don't think we have been as bad as some seem th think this year.

If you look at our recent history (last 10 years) how many coaches have we had. That combined with DW/ML splashing out mega money for a few players resulting in us not having a good squad has caused most of the problems we have had. Chopping and changing the coach is rarely the answer.

When IL took over he publically stated that it would be the 2010 season before the financial mess was sorted out. Noble came in and brought us back from the brink. I have watched us slowly change from having a few quality individuals to having a decent squad with competition for places. I believe the job Noble has done with the playing squad he has had has been very good and he deserves his chance for next season now the finances are back in order.

Well said Just others cannot see it