Indeed. St Helens finished 7 points behind us.

Isn't FearTheVee an accountant as well?

Quote ="saintswift"You have got to love the cocky attitude by the Wiggin fans on here!!! Because you beat Catalan, you now think you are there again??? And if you think saints played at their peak 2 weeks ago, then fair enough, but saints can improve also which alot of you seem to be forgetting on here. Because we won at the DW, it's our best win of the year!?!?!?! not a surprise when wiggin fans say that. Take away the game at widnes in June, the other 4 games could have gone either way and this weekend's game will be exactly the same. Wiggin will start as favourites, just, but if saints turn up and play their game, then the piemen will have to something exceptional. Time will tell, if wiggin well I will say fair enough, but I get the feeling that if saints pull off another shock (not to saints fans) wiggin fans won't say the same. I love it when people underestimate saints. Like one former saints captain once said, NEVER WRITE OFF THE SAINTS'" Looks like your coach thought we played well.... www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

Quote ="saintswift"You have got to love the cocky attitude by the Wiggin fans on here!!! Because you beat Catalan, you now think you are there again??? And if you think saints played at their peak 2 weeks ago, then fair enough, but saints can improve also which alot of you seem to be forgetting on here. Because we won at the DW, it's our best win of the year!?!?!?! not a surprise when wiggin fans say that. Take away the game at widnes in June, the other 4 games could have gone either way and this weekend's game will be exactly the same. Wiggin will start as favourites, just, but if saints turn up and play their game, then the piemen will have to something exceptional. Time will tell, if wiggin well I will say fair enough, but I get the feeling that if saints pull off another shock (not to saints fans) wiggin fans won't say the same. I love it when people underestimate saints. Like one former saints captain once said, NEVER WRITE OFF THE SAINTS'" Looks like your coach thought we played well.... www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

Six plus a massive points difference.

Before yesterday's game we had endured a constant stream 'let's all laugh at Wigan' threads =#800000on our board from Wire & Stains trolls since last weekend. Now you come =#800000on our board to let us know that we've all got a 'cocky attitude'? Maybe a little respect to the current Champions would be the order of the day, whilst it is a tricky path to Old Trafford the days of fear and dread of playing your men away are well and truly over, regardless of the result.

Do the maths. Properly this time.

A conversion and a last minute missed tackle away from Saints finishing above the "all conquering" Wigan.

We're closer than we're being given credit for.

Banter aside, I can't wait for it - could just be the game of the season.

I give up

My take

I want us to beat Leeds and play Wigan in the final
but
i think Saints will win.

Saints have had the week off, beat you last time when Wigan were probably in better physical shape at your own place. Wigan were playing Sweet Chariot rugby whenever they could to get a breather and conserve energy against Catalans.

Saints by 12, hope i'm wrong

Oh yeah.

You might want to rethink this bit.

Ahh. I see.

I'd actually credited you with a victory at Cardiff.

My maths were right, my facts wrong.



The point stands even if we'd have been level on points - not the gaping chasm some would have you believe.

Let's. Have. It!

And if my Auntie had testicles and all that........

You might want to stop whilst you're behind.

(Although obviously, you'll think that you're less behind than we "arrogant" Wigan fans think you are)

I think you are wrong. Us to beat Stains and Leeds to turn you over.

The point of there not being some 'gaping chasm' remains.

Although, feel free to bury your head and maybe enjoy an evening with your Uncle Barbara on Saturday...

D'oh so did I!

Move along, nothing to see here. And don't tell my boss, it's pay review this Friday

we wiganers have every right to feel more confident after yesterdays' result. just as wire, leeds and saints fans will be feeling too.

i see no problem with fans beleiveing their own team can win ANY game. isn't that what being a supporter is all about - i may be wrong



including the CC final and up until before yesterdays' game, wigan had not played to their full potential if you ask me and many, like myself, felt we looked jaded and in need of a rest due to the old "CC hangover" hoodoo. going into yesterdays' game a lot of wiganers including myself once again actually thought it could have been our last game of the year. instead we put in a steady performance, ok helped by a couple of dodgy calls either way in fairness, but in the end came away with an emphatic win.

wire have chosen leeds in the hope, i'd imagine, that we beat the bejesus out of each other on saturday. it will be our 6th match this year as you'll all know which for me is a little silly but still, the game is the game and i want to support my team so therefore i'll take it for what it is.

in my opinion, wigan are still the favourites, even if we'd been largely out of form and not won in a few games, being the current SL champions and CC holders carries with it the moniker of being the favourite if you ask me. we have EDGED the games between us this year apart from the most recent game, and until that were unbeaten against saints in 2011.

so again, why shouldn't we feel confident?

let us be confident. by all means be confident yourselves. but the pressure is on saints whether we are the slight favourites or not.

This could be the best or worst day of my life Saturday, im at Goodison in the morning watching Liverpoool, 12.45 kick off, then getting a lift to Widnes for Saints Wigan, 2 derbys in one day for me.

Agreed with all your post except this bit.

No pressure on Saints at all IMO, nobody really expected us to REACH the GF, whereas lots of your fans expect you to WIN the GF.

I think Saints are likely to be going into the game with less fear of failure at the weekend. Whether that is a good thing or not, I'm not sure!

TBH the pressure isnt really on one or the other imo. Everybody with half a brain knows its going to be a huge crunch match and small margins will decide it. Both teams know they will have to pull out a good one to win this game.

It should be a cracker and I can't wait for Saturday.

It will be a very close game IMO and it could co either way,hopefully ours.

Are you aware Rugby League existed pre-SL?

I have seen Leeds finish second, then get knocked out of the end of season playoff at Headingley by 7th placed Featherstone Rovers !! (Coached by Peter Fox, who claimed afterwards he planned to finish 7th because he knew Fev would win the game

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The old Premiership format is completely different to the playoff's to decide the champions. I also remember Featherstone beating us in the first round a week before we beat Stains at Wembley in the CC Final.

Were you this vocal when Leeds finished 2nd and lost their first playoff fixtures in 2007 and 2008? Thought not

You weren't better in the forwards; you were dominant in the halves and at dummy half, and your defence was solid but in no way brutal. I suggest you watch the game again before you post any further. Again you're trying to force a 'one size fits all' argument on to every game. Just because you won doesn't neccessarily mean you were better in every facet of the game. It CERTAINLY doesn't mean you were dominant in every facet.

Again you're putting words in my mouth. Where did I say (or say I think) only Wigan's defence and pressure is capable of forcing errors. I notice you have singularly failed to respond to any of my previous requests to show where I supposedly wrote any of the nonsense you're spouting so I imagine this will be no different. However, if all you're going to do is make stuff up and then post a reply to something I never said in the first place then might I respectfully suggest you stop posting things like "I understand that I'm out of my depth here and of course I concede every point you've made" as it undermines your argument? (see what I did there?

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You might want to compare metres made by our pack to yours - I haven't seen the stats, but I'd imagine we'd come out on top.

If I'm wrong, fair enough. It's how I saw the game, our pack got on top.