The issue we have with Lockers is you can’t see any pattern in when these injuries come. It’s not like you can say he’s being flogged for 75 mins and picking them up near the end of the game and the injuries seem to vary wildly. He can be fine for weeks and then something goes or as is the case these past few weeks, he can come back from one knock, do 5/10 mins and something goes in a different part of his body.

I’d love to see him play on but because of the reasons I’ve noted, it makes it difficult to say we’ll wrap him in cotton wool and just play him in the big games because he’s as likely to pick up an injury then as he is after playing 8 on the spin.

Sad to say but his time may have come.

I'd be very happy if he does 12 more months. Hopefully that will be on a deal that's in the clubs favour tho.

He'd be great to have in our squad next year.

Shaun has earned the right to decide when the time is right for him to retire.When he broke into the Wigan first team as a stand off he had a lot to live up to given his family’s history with the club.He has far exceeded any expectations that were set for him and has been a credit to himself,his family and the club.He got loads of unjustifiable criticism at the start of his career and rose above it to become one of our best ever players.I hope he can regain fitness to play again this season,to captain the Lions and go again next year.

The team should always come before individual players. Unfortunately I think it's time for him to move on to the next challenge of his career - coaching.

I agree. But the club also has a right to pay him for the amount of time he is likely to spend on the pitch.

I think that we should let nature take its course and not rush him back and get him 100% fit for next season

100% in favour of SOL playing on, assuming he wants to of course. Other than him still being one of the best in the league when on the pitch, there are 2 other things worth bearing in mind:

1. It's very easy to exaggerate his fitness issues. He still plays easily enough games to justify his status as a key player.

2. More importantly, we've got a huge turnover of players as it is next year. We've all got high hopes for Hastings and others, but one of the thing O'Loughlin is excellent at is knitting our play together.

He's at the stage of his career that he has to take a year at a time, but I'd be delighted if he carries on.

This injury is a bit of a freak one.

Give us one more year lockers, let’s win the comp with Burgess, Hastings etc al

Give your successor another years development

And ride off into the sunset.

He will play on next year and im glad.

This season was a season too far, Please don't go round again, You've had you time now let another player have theirs

Putting aside the injury concerns - how many games has O'Loughlin actually been at his best this year (or anywhere near it)?

His best as in his prime? Probably none, there might be a couple of games which I'm missing.

There are still things which he does every time that he's on the pitch that other can't do. As was pointed out a page or 2 back, he plays 5 minutes against Hull and we probably don't win if he doesn't

Those 5 minutes against Hull were brilliant - put Farrell through a gap, Bryne through a gap and created the space for the Leuluai kick to Marshall.

Last season was a year too far according to you. Remember, the one where we lifted the trophy?

The year where he managed less than 19 minutes per game for half of the season, I seam to recall he only managed 9 minutes in one game, Add his total minutes up for last season and it is the equivalent of 8 games, Simply not good enough

Haha.. You're just making things up now. I showed you up on this once before. Don't make me do it again!



BTW it would be more accurate to say "the season we wouldn't have made the final at all without him". How come that never figures in your appraisal? Why do you conveniently forget the games we won only because he took the field... and there were plenty of them. Do you not remember Catalans away for example or is it easier to ignore anything that doesn't fit your agenda?

This season he's played 19 games so far and has averaged more minutes per game than any other middle. How does that tie in with your 1 season too long mantra?

No idea if this is true, but even if it is it's a misleading use of stats for a player who is rotated when he plays. James Roby won MoS by playing in <40 minutes a game.

He's self evidently still producing the goods when on the pitch. Sure we'd all like to see him play every game, but I really don't get the clamour to lose someone of his quality when he plays more games than he misses.

You mean the games where he played 9, 11, 14, 17, 19 minutes, As for the playing more minutes bollox, nothing more than club propaganda

I know you have topless posters of Lockers on your wall but come on it's time to let him go

I would give him one more year, but perhaps use him as a sub at either loose forward or at prop i.e middle in current terminology.

It's a bit of on going banter between myself and phuzzy since 2007

Fair play, my mistake!

What about the games he he played 80, 90, 100 mins and the time he played for 3 weeks one match! (Well my numbers are as realistic as yours

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I was against him going around again. He has been an unbelievable player and ambassador for the club but he is (i would say) at the end now. However i have been thinking about this over the last week or so and ....... With the emergence of Smithies i think it's essential that he does 1 more year. Smithies for the positional transition and the other lads like Partington and Byrne also in the forward line. 1 more year, but this has to be the last one unless he somehow does a relatively injury free season which is highly doubtful.

I still rate Lockers and don’t think he’s done too bad with injuries the last couple of seasons, made the dream team last year, probably not as good this year but his leadership is invaluable as we don’t seem to have any other leaders in the team. I would be happy for him to go round again but the only problem I see is his wage,if he’s earning the wage of a star player then maybe that money is better spent elsewhere, if he’s willing to take a pay cut and play for roughly 100k a year then let him carry on.