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| Quote ="cushler"It looked even worse in real time,he had been effectively taken out of the game and you could see his frustration growing . I think he is allegedly on some kind of suspended prison sentence in NL for asault. Coward in my eyes. [uMind you there are some cas fans defending him[/u , not all but some.'"
You'll get that with 'home' fans. There were people on here defending Hock after his gauge and I'm sure there would have been people defending Cassidy's 'tackle' on Morley if the internet had been around then. Par for the course really.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"He has a suspended prison sentence for breaking a mans jaw in a pub fight
, he clearly is an exceptional Rugby player but I don't want him representing out country and taking places from home grown British talent.
[urlhttp://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/league-player-rangi-chase-pleads-guilty-to-breaking-mans-jaw-in-gold-coast-pub-fight/story-e6frep66-1226112349337[/url'"
Agree with most of that mate, but after seeing him perform against our part timers I'm not sure he is that "exceptional" a very good championship player maybe. But at your level I don't think he could handle the pressure.
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| Quote ="cushler"Agree with most of that mate, but after seeing him perform against our part timers I'm not sure he is that "exceptional" a very good championship player maybe. But at your level I don't think he could handle the pressure.'"
I don't think he has much desire of making it at a big club he's happy taking a huge wage from Cas and standing out in a mediocre side. He would have to take a wage cut to be accommodated in a top side I think.
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| Quote ="FAXE LUCAS"But wouldnt that mean that a court would have to prove intent and it was a malicious act, which would then mean Chase is guilty of assault. I think it was a bad tackle but not for the courts to get involved with otherwise it would be happening everyweek in amateur rugby you would hope that as a professional sports player he would ensure he is covered to play and so will be covered'"
I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that if Ropati took out a civil, private prosecution there's be no criminal comeback on Chase, but obviously there'd need to be proof it was a deliberate act which to me is pretty conclusive. The game is hard enough without dangerous thuggery like what we saw on Saturday. If it means those who play with intent of injuring other in the amateur game think twice as well, then good. People who play hard and aggressive while still playing fair have nothing to worry about.
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| Hop, skip, jump, dummy. Thats all Chase has got, nothing else to his game. Isn't fit to lace Brett Finch's boots or Lee Briers for that matter.
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| Id like see him given his chance at a bigger club see what hes got, i think at the side of a Finch type player he would be immense but id rather us go for an out and out 7 and leave Finch doing what hes doing so well rather than have 2 different kinds of 6.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Id like see him given his chance at a bigger club see what hes got, i think at the side of a Finch type player he would be immense but id rather us go for an out and out 7 and leave Finch doing what hes doing so well rather than have 2 different kinds of 6.'"
We would never get him but Shaun Johnson playing along side Finch would be an amazing combination of attacking flair with player management and control. A player with Shaun Johnson's mold will do nicely.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"We would never get him but Shaun Johnson playing along side Finch would be an amazing combination of attacking flair with player management and control. [uA player with Shaun Johnson's mold will do nicely[/u.'"
We've got one playing at fullback.
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| Quote ="Pemps"We've got one playing at fullback.'"
Then we could do with a fullback of a similar mold to Kevin Locke, either way an exciting attacking player is required to fill the huge hole in the squad Tommy's departure will create.
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| Stop this nonsense Rangi is the Man of Steel much better than Sam Tomkins. He is allowed to do that. I know who i would rather have in my side any day of the week. Chase has so much ability and is the worlds best No6. Come on he is the MOS winner 2011 for been such a great player and the stand out player. He is allowed to do that as now he is English and a thug. All he needs is an ASBO ohh wait a sec.
Imagine if Sam did that hit on a player the uproar on here and by Dumb and Dumber from Sky. What is laughable is that he will only get 2-3 game ban but what is even more fun he actually won the MOS award for been above average in a crap side.
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| Quote ="tank123"Stop this nonsense Rangi is the Man of Steel much better than Sam Tomkins. He is allowed to do that. I know who i would rather have in my side any day of the week. Chase has so much ability and is the worlds best No6. Come on he is the MOS winner 2011 for been such a great player and the stand out player. He is allowed to do that as now he is English and a thug. All he needs is an ASBO ohh wait a sec.
Imagine if Sam did that hit on a player the uproar on here and by Dumb and Dumber from Sky. What is laughable is that he will only get 2-3 game ban but what is even more fun he actually won the MOS award for been above average in a crap side.'" The £300 fine is the most embarrassing aspect of it all, what sort deterrent is that for literally intended assault on a rugby field?
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"The £300 fine is the most embarrassing aspect of it all, what sort deterrent is that for literally intended assault on a rugby field?'"
I agree
John Stankovich has just been fined a grand for shouting at a referee.
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| Perhaps if he'd done something really heinous - like throw the ball into the crowd - they could have invented some higher authority to refer him to, just to ensure that the punishment would match the crime.
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| Once again the RFL become a laughing stock. A player is injured by a deliberate action for 10/12 weeks and the thug (that is what he is besides being a choker) gets away with 3 matches.
We are a joke and deserve what we get i.e. a second rate sport treated as such.
Compare what happens in Union with things not in the same thuggery (a game that is more ruthles and violent than League) as Chase. in Union he would have got at least 12 weeks maybe more.
Chase is an OK player who can't hack it when the pressure is on, i.e. last kick of the semi to take Cas to Wembley last year a pretty easy drop kick and what happens screws badly. I know no drop kick is easy but if under no presssure he would have kicked it 99 out of 100, but can't take pressure.
He is lucky to get away with 3 matches and I just hope McNamara will take a stand and drop him full stop. However McNamara and Chase are both pretty ordinary and cant see the coach being brave enough to take a big decision. As we all know he was a great success at Bradford with his tactics.
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| That's assault pure and simple.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that if Ropati took out a civil, private prosecution there's be no criminal comeback on Chase, but obviously there'd need to be proof it was a deliberate act which to me is pretty conclusive.'"
I'm an LLB undergraduate so take this how you wish...
Trespass to the person springs to mind here, however it'd need to be shown that: a) the act and not the outcome (i.e the damage) was committed intentionally b) the act was direct and immediate c) it satisfies the legal test of a 'battery'. If the above were to be satisfied then the defence of consent could possibly be brought up.
There was a case [iMcNamara [/iI think re: an Australian Rules player who used his elbow and he was found to be liable, but I think it was off the ball.
You've been helpful with my revision for upcoming exams
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| Slag your own players off for there mistakes rather than other teams.ie players getting done for being druggies..You lot are so funny rangi is a big fish in a small pond but yet is man of steel,in a side that missed the play offs.M.O.S means you are voted the best player in super league something your little baby so called sam tompkins could not win.stick 2 fingers up at crowd cos its wigan and wigan can do what they like.rangi chase is a class player and someone wigan would love to have so get off his back and look whats going off at your club rather than slag other clubs and there players off.thats all from me so tuddle do pie eatets
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| Quote ="PAULAW.1"Slag your own players off for there mistakes rather than other teams.ie players getting done for being druggies..You lot are so funny rangi is a big fish in a small pond but yet is man of steel,in a side that missed the play offs.M.O.S means you are voted the best player in super league something your little baby so called sam tompkins could not win.stick 2 fingers up at crowd cos its wigan and wigan can do what they like.rangi chase is a class player and someone wigan would love to have so get off his back and look whats going off at your club rather than slag other clubs and there players off.thats all from me so tuddle do pie eatets
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As for Mr Hock, you will find plenty of criticism on out board, and many did not want him to return to the team. Sam also gets plenty of criticism from our fans. However, as this is a forum, i feel people are free to say what they wish, provided it conforms to the rules... Just as you are free to say as you wish. Odd that you should complain about the comments, but then do the same...
Rangi Chase.... MOS... Man of Straw... have a nice day...
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| Quote ="PAULAW.1"rangi is a big fish in a small pond but yet is man of steel'"
Well he lost that title to Tangi on Saturday as his mouth is full of it!
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| Quote ="Fevxr2i"Well he lost that title to Tangi on Saturday as his mouth is full of it!'"
Ouch.... Can't understand how people cannot understand the criticism... Was a very poor "challenge", odd that he looked the biggest threat at the time of the "challenge"
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| Quote ="PAULAW.1"Slag your own players off for there mistakes rather than other teams.ie players getting done for being druggies..You lot are so funny rangi is a big fish in a small pond but yet is man of steel,in a side that missed the play offs.M.O.S means you are voted the best player in super league something your little baby so called sam tompkins could not win.stick 2 fingers up at crowd cos its wigan and wigan can do what they like.rangi chase is a class player and someone wigan would love to have so get off his back and look whats going off at your club rather than slag other clubs and there players off.thats all from me so tuddle do pie eatets
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You Cas fans have such a sense of humour, sending yourself up like that is hilarious. This is a comic gem - you even deliberately misspelled Sam Tomkins' name, just to appear even more moronic.
If anything though, it was a little too good. No one could actually be that stupid.
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| I think one thing that needs to be taken out of it is the damage caused becuase no matter how serious an injury is the punishment should be the same. If he had of got up played the ball and had no injuries the punishment from the RFL should be the exact same as if he had of broke his jaw as the intent to cause injury was still there.
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