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| Quote ="Geoff"And televised games...but yes, of course, how could we judge him on games we don't see?
Wire didn't take long to identify their main weakness from last season.'"
You mean in the fact that Wire offered him a new deal and wanted him to stay?
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| Quote ="Fully"You mean in the fact that Wire offered him a new deal and wanted him to stay?'"
Considering they'd already signed Hodgson, and Mathers didn't want to be playnig 2nd fiddle to someone, yes.
Tony Smith isn't stupid, hence why he brought in a top Full Back when he had Mathers at his club.
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| Quote ="the18thman"I said that he would pop up with a try late on, right after he knocked on near his line. You just knew it would happen.'"
No , No and No , you said they would score in the last few minutes and i said and i bet its mathers who will score
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| Mathers won us the CC against Leeds, he was simply awesome.
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| Quote ="pembertonwarrior92"No , No and No , you said they would score in the last few minutes and i said and i bet its mathers who will score
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No. I said it to lawson in the first half actually.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Mathers won us the CC against Leeds, he was simply awesome.'"
He also threw the pass to Cudjoe that put you out of the playoffs.
He was phenomenal in that Final, but he's not the type of player that puts in those performances on a consistent basis. Got nothing against the man, as he's fantastically good entertainment when it rains.
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| Quote ="the18thman"No. I said it to lawson in the first half actually.'"
Oh reet , you just said to me that they will score with a few to go and i said yes it will be richie who scores.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"He also threw the pass to Cudjoe that put you out of the playoffs.
He was phenomenal in that Final, but he's not the type of player that puts in those performances on a consistent basis. Got nothing against the man, as he's fantastically good entertainment when it rains.'"
Shows he's a great player, just needs to work on his concentration a little.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Shows he's a[u great [/uplayer, just needs to work on his concentration a little.'"
I think 'great' is pushing it a bit
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"As a fullback.....
I agree - Awful.
Kick the ball to him and you can pretty much guarantee a mistake every 3 to 4 kicks (at his best).
The try he scored was, shall we say, Karl Pryce-esque - Catch and fall.'"
He has been safe as houses all season.
Maybe 2 or 3 errors from kicks, Then it turns out he had a shocker agianst you,
The paper says you lot were giving him some stick ? I couldnt hear it. But i think if you were. Its hilarious he comes and steals victory off you, After been ragged off the field. Coaching genius to take him off.
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| Judging from his latest "tweet" it would seem some of our fans have been giving him stick on Twitter too...
RichardMathers:
"Thanks for all the kind messages from all fans, all the negative ones can smoke it... #classycas #wire #Rhinos"
Either that or he's completely blocked out from his memory the fact he played for us!!
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Awful ? Oh dear.
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He was dragged off by his coach before half time.
Awful player.
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| Quote ="Wigan Stu"Judging from his latest "tweet" it would seem some of our fans have been giving him stick on Twitter too...
RichardMathers:
"Thanks for all the kind messages from all fans, all the negative ones can smoke it... #classycas #wire #Rhinos"
Either that or he's completely blocked out from his memory the fact he played for us!!'"
I would if I was him!
Dont like the way Wigan fans taunt him but he was simply pathetic in his time at Wigan.
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| awful? yeh awful, came to us for two years won two trophies big weakness in the side. we didn't see him as a weak link are inability to kick goals was the main reason hodgson was brought in not because we needed a better fullback that was just a bonus.
it seems that the only teams fans where he has been at, what call him awful are wigan fans whilst every other team he played for th fans say that he is a good player i wonder why that is? ( i know that he was apparently according to you lot awful at his time at your club but that could be for many reasons) not that he's an awful player.
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| Quote ="back2back 09/10"awful? yeh awful, came to us for two years won two trophies big weakness in the side. we didn't see him as a weak link are inability to kick goals was the main reason hodgson was brought in not because we needed a better fullback that was just a bonus.
it seems that the only teams fans where he has been at, what call him awful are wigan fans whilst every other team he played for th fans say that he is a good player i wonder why that is? ( i know that he was apparently according to you lot awful at his time at your club but that could be for many reasons) not that he's an awful player.'"
So the weakest link in your team before Hodgson arrived was not Mathers at FB? If that was the case why didnt you go for someone else who good kick goals in another position?
Mathers is a good player and did well to come back on at the end and score the try to gain Cas a point (even though the way he celebrated you would of thought he won the game).
He has never been outstanding at any club he has been and there are a number of FB's in the league I would have ahead of him (Tomkins, Webb, Hodgson, Greenshields etc etc etc). So as I said good player to have around the squad and solid at times, with one outstanding game a season. Not something you want from your FB.
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| Mathers was the weakest link in a Wigan side but you lot seem don't seem to understand he wasn't at Leeds he wasn't at Wire and he isn't at Cas, sometimes it just doesn't work at a certain club.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Mathers was the weakest link in a Wigan side but you lot seem don't seem to understand he wasn't at Leeds he wasn't at Wire and he isn't at Cas, sometimes it just doesn't work at a certain club.'"
So who was the weakest player in the Warrington side when Mathers was there then?
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"So who was the weakest player in the Warrington side when Mathers was there then?'"
Not Mathers, not by a long way, he threw one looping pass in the playoffs but to be fair we were losing anyway, that just made sure of it.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Not Mathers, not by a long way, he threw one looping pass in the playoffs but to be fair we were losing anyway, that just made sure of it.'"
Fair enough I was under the impression that if Warrington could replace someone in the 1st team, it would have been Mathers, and you did so with Hodgson.
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| There is a part of me was happy for Mathers when he scored.
Off the field he is a really cracking bloke - certainly many other players could learn from him with how he deals / reacts with supporters.
On the field it never happened for him at our club.
He's not on his own in that, especially round that time, but some players seem to be immune from critism, others praised even when they fail to produce.
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| Quote ="back2back 09/10"
it seems that the only teams fans where he has been at, what call him awful are wigan fans whilst every other team he played for th fans say that he is a good player i wonder why that is? '"
Because we have higher standards than the other clubs he was at.
Look at his downhill career progression since 2009...Wigan...Wire...Cas...who's next, Widnes?
Quote ...inability to kick goals was the main reason hodgson was brought in'"
Nonsense. No team buys a player just for their goalkicking. In any case, you had Briers, Bridge & Westwood, all pretty decent kickers.
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| Quote ="Geoff"Because we have higher standards than the other clubs he was at.
Look at his downhill career progression since 2009...Wigan...Wire...Cas...who's next, Widnes?
Nonsense.[u No team buys a player just for their goalkicking[/u. In any case, you had Briers, Bridge & Westwood, all pretty decent kickers.'" Do you Remember Frano Botica??
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| The reason why Wire fans won't admit he was the weak link is simply because of the circumstances of Mathers joining the club which means they'd have to admit that they got the cacky end of the stick at the time.
At the end of the day Warrington chose to demote him by signing Hodgson because he does not meet the standards that Warrington expect from a fullback.
Get over it.
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| Quote ="the ditch"Do you Remember Frano Botica??'"
Yes, a stand off or winger, much underrated by fans of other clubs, made a massive contribution to arguably the greatest team of the modern era. File under "Legend".
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| Quote ="the ditch"Do you Remember Frano Botica??'"
If that is a serious comment, I suggest you re-start your Rugby League education on page 1 (of the Beginners Manual, that is).
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