I said 4th or 5th and I stand by it. Injuries may take its toll though.

Let's have a look at the table in three weeks.

Wakefields next three games are Huddersfield away, Leeds home and Saints away

5th at best - a win against Catalans at home next week would set us up nicely (not a given by any means in terms of injuries) but then we have a very tough run of fixtures - Bradford (away), Leeds (home), Saints (away), Warrington (semi), Warrington (home).

6 wins could make our season, 6 defeats could break our season - I'd be happy if we managed 4 wins including the semi, but given our inconsistency and injuries that may be beyond us.

NOt a chance of third without T Smith and more importantly Mcilorum and Lockers..

Lockers has been immense and we only have to look at the celtics game to see how we play without him.. Big loss .......

he is back for the semi..

Agreed, Lockers in a huge loss - been our best player this season by an absolute mile - he seemed to have regained his gamebreaking ability and some of the pace that appeared to have gone with the knee injuries and that added to his undoubted quality / workrate in defence makes him invaluable - the best 13 in the British game at present.

McIllorum is a shame, but an absence that could be accommodated by moving TL to hooker on the interchange, ST to scrum half and giving Gleeson a run at stand off. Added bonus of then giving Pryce a run in the team from the bench, which I think will help him kick on - there were a few positive signs on Friday, especially in his one on one defence which has improved markedly.

T Smith is an enigma, I can't decide whether him being missing is a good thing or a bad thing. He can be unplayable on his day with his range of passing and organisation (i.e, the masterclass at Murrayfield), but can also be appalling and lose games single handedly with poor decision making and terrible defence. Also his presence keeps ST out of the team, which is a major negative.

Class.

Who better then?? Sinfield, purdam, Flannery, westerman,??

Who's better then?? Sinfield, purdam, Flannery, westerman,??

Name one better?
Sinfield - hugely overrated in a good team, less breaks, tackles, tries and try assists than Lockers.
Wilkin - more inconsistent - doesn't have the creative responsibility of Lockers instead feeding off others - better in terms of breaks and tries, poorer in all others facets of the game.
Purdham - if fit, the only likely contender - poor season statistically (no tries, no assists).
Westerman - not in Lockers class yet in any aspect.

I prefere to look at it from the other side of things.

The past few years we have had a weak and poor quins team, who never got in the top 6, and won the odd game to stay up. Surely a club that couldn't have a winning culture.

However this year they started very well, and are in the position they are in because of that good start. So what if they have fallen of the horse at the end? It will take time for them to become a team that can challenge for the top 3/4.

Surely that, coupled with the great start for Cas, KR and others show that these clubs are moving in the right direction on the field??

It would be better for the Club to finish outside the playoffs, as a loss of revenue through dwindling season ticket sales would make IL sit up and take notice, he is a business man and a tight one at that, unlike DW he won't flash the cash, losing large amounts of money on the gates would spur ihim into action IMO, and a serious reshuffle of the team/back room stuff would be just the ticket

I do not think quins were poor at all especially second half, they clearly had their game plan bang on second half but we had the extra man.

By saying that I do think we will beat either Leeds or Saints.

The higher up the table we get, the more confident I will be as we will have momentum, if we won most of our games and finished 3rd or 4th then I am confident we could go to saints or leeds and win getting us through to week 3. I don't think this new play-off system will end up with a leeds v saints final and if there is one team that could do it from outside the top 2 it's us, no matter how poor we have been all season.

Name a better one or where you just passing through?

Without McIllorum & Lockers we have got a helluva job on, Tommy & Riddell and other senior pros like Roberts & Fielden really need to step up, there were signs of it on Friday, I hope that continues into the Catalan game which is another its important we win.

Ellis can play 13 and is better than O'L.
But you're right, he is one of the best.
I personally think it will be a struggle for you guys to overtake us (Wire), if you do you'll beat us to 4th, think we're both a little behind to catch 3rd, maybe one or two games too far.
What im interested in, and this links to the cup as well as the rest of the year, is do you guys think you have a better team than Warrington? Im a Wire fan so slightly biased, but sometimes I see you and you're freakin terrible but for some reason in a playoff game or the semi of 04 you can turn it on. I personally think 1-17 we're better though imho

On paper does not really matter, we are not the 4rd best team at all yet we have finished 3rd for the last 2 years.

Thats what worries me regarding you guys.
I wouldnt exactly say you finished 3rd, i know thats the prize money you will have received and everything but i still say league position is a better indication of where you are at over a year.

We peaked at the right time both years and ended up third. No on would say that if they finished 6th and won the grand final, oh well the league position is a better indication.

Sinfield is so much better than lockers it's daft but non of you lot are ever gonna have that!! And I don't expect you to.

If I had to sign one of them I would take westerman over lockers any day

ellis Is much better in the backrow or at lock!!

But at the game's highest level - International rugby - O'ls performances have truly been so much better it's daft.

SERIOUS QUOTE MATERIAL!!! Sinfield....The most overrated player in SL EVER!

Quality

It does if your in the top four and you lose the first game you get a second chance in the playoffs

As I have said on multilple occasions, I would rather sneak 8th on a good run than finish 4th on a bad one.

Thing is though to finish in the 3rd or 4th this season with how tight it is, your going to have to be on a good run.

don't talk sense to BK, it'll confuse him!!!




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