Well to be honest he wasn't that great defensively today. Easy tries down the right, and a few near misses.

The kung fu kick he used to assault Halley was damn dangerous

What is odd is that Roberts has been running at FB in training.

I hope he gets banned for at least 10 games!

Ive defended Mathers for too long.


Close the door on the way out Richie....

More like a permanant ban!

You mean the orange one?

As somebody who has contributed to the Mathers bagging after today, I look at a few posts and think they are fully justified but feel slightly sorry for Mathers...At the end of the day, he doesn't select himself. Alot of flack needs to go towards Brian Noble for selecting him. I'm actually very pro-Noble but completely disagree with his fullback selection.

It said it all in the second half when the crowd spontaneously cheered when he caught the ball.

More fool you. How can you be pro of someone whos not changed his tactics in his professional coaching career?

Brian Noble should carry a RFL health warning

Playing under this coach can seriously damage your career

I agree.

It does no good hounding a particular player, apart from ease the frustration of the poster.

That's not a good enough reason as far as I'm concerned.

Must admit I did feel sorry for him today when it was announced over the tannoy that he was returning from the bin, to a big load of boo's



basically meaning fans would rather us play with 12 men than have him in the team

I thought the booing was for something else that was happening during the game at that time, even so he must have thought it was for him.

The ironic cheers when he did cach a couple of balls must have been awful for him. However, I struggle to find anything good about his game other than his cheerleading enthusiasm.

Agree with all of that.

i take it the 15 who voted 'no' are hull fans?

Funnily enough I thought we did.

Dave

I don't think Noble can be bagged for selecting him today. In a nutshell Mathers was given the benefit of the doubt last season as he returned from injury so it was odds on he'd get the no. 1 slot today.

It is what Noble does now with the full back slot that counts.

Unlike you I am at the opposite end of the Noble appreciation society but he has to find out if Mathers is good enough.

We shout loud enough when Noble is seemingly too quick to drop players for the flimsiest of excuses such as Goulding so I suppose sticking loyally to Mathers just compounds our frustration when other more talented players only have to sneeze out of place to get dropped but I still think Noble was bound to play Mathers today.

Dave

I nearly gave myself a coronary as I had thought that they had announced him as MOTM

My only concern is if we replace Mathers with Roberts I'm not sure we'll see a big improvement.

The guy looked below average today. Positionally he was poor at times, together with the desperately poor Phelps he formed the worst centre pairing defensively that I think I've ever seen at Wigan, and he displayed little of the pace I was expecting.

Let's pray he improves as the season wears on.

I think Amos missed two tackles into the run up for the first try, and I thought "f*** me we've bought an aussie who can't tackle" - and then later in the game I think he laid somebody out with a pearler of a tackle in front of the posts - maybe it was just the newness factor, first game for the pairing, unfamiliar with each other etc . Kear targetted them very effectively today - good call sir!

I suspect those two will get markedly better.

Whereas Mathers............

i say keep him in the squad can only got worse

dirty bas tard he is, and always has been / will be

Might not be a decision you need to make.

If the RFL have any bottle they'll ban him anyway. Disgusting and very dangerous behaviour.