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| On a hiding to nothing - even if a SL team wins a 'friendly' it will be said the NRL side didn't take it seriously. Or more likely the SL sides will get a shallacking
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Not quite, it's Saints being told when they have to play (your ground is available on both days)
It would have been quite interesting if the three teams had been Wigan, Hull and Huddersfield.'"
Wrong. If Saints win on Saturday then your WCC game should be on the Saturday but you've been told that's not allowed.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Wrong. If Saints win on Saturday then your WCC game should be on the Saturday but you've been told that's not allowed.'"
Have you been told you're playing Saturday regardless of the Grand Final result.
Could you play WCC on Sunday?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Have you been told you're playing Saturday regardless of the Grand Final result.
Could you play WCC on Sunday?'"
What's the reason for the change?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"What's the reason for the change?'"
What change. Wigan were always playing Sunday.
Now answer the question.
Why are Saints not playing on Sunday?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"What change. Wigan were always playing Sunday.
Now answer the question.
Why are Saints not playing on Sunday?'"
I'll rephrase the question. If Wigan lose on Saturday, they should be playing on the Saturday of the World Club Series. What is the reason that they won't be playing on the Saturday?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I'll rephrase the question. If Wigan lose on Saturday, they should be playing on the Saturday of the World Club Series. What is the reason that they won't be playing on the Saturday?'"
Why should they be playing on Saturday?
Why are Saints playing on Saturday?
You've sidestepped that question twice.
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"icon_sad.gif Why should they be playing on Saturday?
Why won't Saints be playing on Sunday?
You've sidestepped that question twice.'"
The original line up had the winners of the two Grand Finals playing on Sunday night and the runners up on the Saturday.
www.superleague.co.uk/article/31 ... 2015-world
www.rugbyleagueontv.co.uk
www.totalrl.com/world-club-serie ... confirmed/
Wigan have been told they can't play Saturday.
That is factual. You can try and talk your way out of it and ask as many questions as you like. The fact remains that Wigan have been told they can't play on the Saturday. I haven't got a clue why you continue to argue that.
Night Rogues.
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"icon_sad.gif Why should they be playing on Saturday?
Why won't Saints be playing on Sunday?
You've sidestepped that question twice.'"
The original line up had the winners of the two Grand Finals playing on Sunday night and the runners up on the Saturday.
www.superleague.co.uk/article/31 ... 2015-world
www.rugbyleagueontv.co.uk
www.totalrl.com/world-club-serie ... confirmed/
Wigan have been told they can't play Saturday.
That is factual. You can try and talk your way out of it and ask as many questions as you like. The fact remains that Wigan have been told they can't play on the Saturday. I haven't got a clue why you continue to argue that.
Night Rogues.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"The original line up had the winners of the two Grand Finals playing on Sunday night and the runners up on the Saturday. Wigan have been told they can't play Saturday.
That is factual. You can try and talk your way out of it and ask as many questions as you like. The fact remains that Wigan have been told they can't play on the Saturday. I haven't got a clue why you continue to argue that.'"
Go and argue with Sky that you want to play on Sunday.
Wigan were always the Sunday game once they qualified.
And in reality it doesn't matter.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Go and argue with Sky that you want to play on Sunday.
Wigan were always the Sunday game once they qualified.
And in reality it doesn't matter.'"
It doesn't matter but you're trying to argue the toss?
As the links above show, the runners up were originally due to play on the Saturday until your landlord spoke up. Wigan weren't always going to be the Sunday at all.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"It was muted as Brisbane as they were the lowest ranked if the Bulldogs who were in the GF decided to take the option to play...They didn't and St George being 11th placed are the lowest ranked of the 3'"
Mooted not muted.
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| SO to sum it up:
Wigan Athletic determine when we play as we share a ground.
Wigan Athletic determine when Stains play even though they don't share a ground.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"SO to sum it up:
Wigan Athletic determine when we play as we share a ground.
Wigan Athletic determine when Stains play even though they don't share a ground.'"
I prefer to think of it as Wigan owning the RFL.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"I prefer to think of it as Wigan owning the RFL.'"
I thought Leeds owned them, have you made a hostile takeover?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I thought Leeds owned them, have you made a hostile takeover?'"
Knocked out in the first round of the lay offs, not taking part in the expanded WCC. It looks that way!
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"SO to sum it up:
Wigan Athletic determine when we play as we share a ground.
Wigan Athletic determine when Stains play even though they don't share a ground.'"
It doesn't really matter to us pal, we can play whenever with us having our own ground.
It's just a bit of a shame for the sport that's all because if we win tomorrow, the World Club Challenge will have to be moved to accommodate a Championship football team. It's more embarrassing for the RFL and Wigan really, it won't matter to us.
I think that sums it up more accurately.
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The original statement had the two Grand Finalists plus the highest placed finishers in Superleague playing in these games. That was what the fans wanted to give finishing higher in the regular season some reward.
That should have been Saints, Wigan and Huddersfield. The goalposts were then moved and Warrington were "invited"
Guess what Huddersfield Town play at home on Sat 21st February, as do Hull City, and Sale Sharks. What would have happened if they had qualified?
The RL should have known that there was a probability of ground unavailability.
It was easy to solve.
"Teams a, b and c will play teams x, y and z at a dates and venues to be announced AFTER the Grand Final"
However this the RFL we're talking about.
And Saints still have to play on Saturday because Wigan Athletic are at home.
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The original statement had the two Grand Finalists plus the highest placed finishers in Superleague playing in these games. That was what the fans wanted to give finishing higher in the regular season some reward.
That should have been Saints, Wigan and Huddersfield. The goalposts were then moved and Warrington were "invited"
Guess what Huddersfield Town play at home on Sat 21st February, as do Hull City, and Sale Sharks. What would have happened if they had qualified?
The RL should have known that there was a probability of ground unavailability.
It was easy to solve.
"Teams a, b and c will play teams x, y and z at a dates and venues to be announced AFTER the Grand Final"
However this the RFL we're talking about.
And Saints still have to play on Saturday because Wigan Athletic are at home.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"The original statement had the two Grand Finalists plus the highest placed finishers in Superleague playing in these games. That was what the fans wanted to give finishing higher in the regular season some reward.
That should have been Saints, Wigan and Huddersfield. The goalposts were then moved and Warrington were "invited"
Guess what Huddersfield Town play at home on Sat 21st February, as do Hull City, and Sale Sharks. What would have happened if they had qualified?
The RL should have known that there was a probability of ground unavailability.
It was easy to solve.
"Teams a, b and c will play teams x, y and z at a dates and venues to be announced AFTER the Grand Final"
However this the RFL we're talking about.
And Saints still have to play on Saturday because Wigan Athletic are at home.
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All that waffle and you still avoid the issue. You never change.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"All that waffle and you still avoid the issue. You never change.'"
What's the issue?
There is 1 game Friday. 1 game Saturday. 1 game Sunday.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"What's the issue?
There is 1 game Friday. 1 game Saturday. 1 game Sunday.'"
The issue was Rogues not admitting what the reason was for the change in schedule.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"The issue was Rogues not admitting what the reason was for the change in schedule.'"
What change in schedule?
There is only a change in the original schedule if Wigan lose tomorrow. Then you can have your moment if you like and claim Wigan are told what to do by Wigan Athletic.
Have you had the same sense of uproar and anger about the RFL moving the goalposts as Rogues Gallery referred to?
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"What change in schedule?
There is only a change in the original schedule if Wigan lose tomorrow. '"
You've answered your own question.
Quote ="Egg Chasing"Have you had the same sense of uproar and anger about the RFL moving the goalposts as Rogues Gallery referred to?'"
Have the RFL moved the goalposts? Did they ever say it was going to be the two grand finalists plus the highest placed finisher in the regular season, or did everyone assume that's what they meant? Genuine question.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Have the RFL moved the goalposts? Did they ever say it was going to be the two grand finalists plus the highest placed finisher in the regular season, or did everyone assume that's what they meant? Genuine question.'"
Yes. They stated that as League Leaders you were guaranteed to be in the World Series as you were the highest finishers.
Going off the apparent rule, had you lost both games and not made the final you wouldn't have qualified.
Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"You've answered your own question.'"
How have I? The Grand Final Winners as of this moment right now are playing on the Sunday. We won't know if that changes until tomorrow and even then it may not. Thus......there is currently no change in schedule.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"It doesn't really matter to us pal, we can play whenever with us having our own ground.
It's just a bit of a shame for the sport that's all because if we win tomorrow, the World Club Challenge will have to be moved to accommodate a Championship football team. It's more embarrassing for the RFL and Wigan really, it won't matter to us.
I think that sums it up more accurately.'"
If I was a Stains fan (thank the Lord I'm not ) I'd be pretty peed off that Dave Whelan is essentially telling me when I can play.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Yes. They stated that as League Leaders you were guaranteed to be in the World Series as you were the highest finishers.
Going off the apparent rule, had you lost both games and not made the final you wouldn't have qualified.
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In that case yes they have moved the goalposts. So Huddersfield have been hard done to? Left out? Did they refuse it?
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