Leeds had three major first team players off sick, and still made us look crap.. we havent progressed, we are stagnant and im sure our crowds will prove so..Lucky to avergage 13.500 this season..

Massive against a team we should easily beat.

Nothing to do with that. Regardless of how poor Salford might be, if the Noble doubters are correct re youth we will see next week.

There are so so many issues other than selection it is not even funny!

Stevie Wonder would not drop Tomkins or Ainscough so, regards youth he has to promote others after today against Salford and then retain them against Hudds to be even close to be proven right.

Yes, he does. Mossop and Pryce should get a run at least.

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I would lose Carmont or Roberts. Depending on Pryce's fitness level. Roberts comes across as lazy, Carmont has been poor for most of the season.

Mossop would get in before Hansen or Joel next week for me.

Prescott for Fielden/Coley - again depending on fitness.

You would drop Carmont or Roberts for Pryce over Bailey? Why?

Mossop for Hanse i agree with.

Thought Fielden and Coley went well tonight, O'Carroll was poor.

Bailey has helped Sam through the last two games in defence. Pryce wouldn't offer him the same protection. Carmont & Roberts have yet to impress.

O'Carroll made a bad choice at the end of the first half. Fielden was okay, but it would be the strongest message Noble could send re players needing to step up. Coley was at best "ok".

How many tries did Leeds score down Baileys side, mainly due to him being caught out of position or simply stepped?

How dare you, that was all Goulding's fault.

Obviously you don't like Noble, but you are just being completely blinded by your opinion of him with that statement.

Care to back up the above statement? I can back up my view.

1. Joel Tomkins. Only got an extended run when Lockers was injured last season. I don't know of anyone who thinks otherwise.

2. Ainscough. Picked when Mathers was suspended and overlooked all last season while Noble juggled players out of position particularly Colbon whom Ainscough looks miles better than. He was a star player in the junior international v the Aussies and had good games in the friendlies. Never got a chance.

3. Sam Tomkins. One game last season v 'Haven scoring 5 tries and never another chance. This season makes the side when McIllorum is suspended.

Tomkins and Ainscough have come into the team and slotted in right away. They were ready and IMO were ready for more than one and zero games last season respectively and I think this is proven by how they are playing now. There were plenty of chances last season to introduce them gradually which is what everyone kept saying Noble should do but this did not happen and now this season because needs must, they are getting back to back games!

It's as plain as the nose on your face that these players would not have got a look in had circumstances not dictated it and my opinion on this is based the evidence of what Noble has actually done (or rather not done) over the last two years with respect to young players. It's an opinion on his coaching not any dislike of Noble.

Dave

A little bird tells me connected to an advisor of your club that Shaun Edwards has already been sounded out, but has rejected it due to being on a good screw with the rah-rahs ..... But one name that is certainly in the frame is the return of the prodigal son from Union .... ANDY FARRELL !

Quote Noble on GMR-''We gave our youngsters another experience of the high level of winning rugby that the opposition play''

This the same Andy Farrell who has allegedly just signed a 3 year coaching deal with Saracens?

Noble time? Is that like Chico time but with big old aussies dancing rather than youngsters?

tbh sounds daft but we werent all that far off against leeds....they were just white hot for the first 30 mins....they would have posted all but one of those first tries on saints IMO and been 18 nil up against them. You cant really legislate for 2 freek 40-20s like they had.

We still have a good squad and a team capable of challenging if we get the selections right, as brian carney said on sky, dont write us off yet.

For me id go with much of the same for salford. Feka needs to start on the bench though for impact, fielden should be dropped at least to the bench if not completely for prescott, and I would bring in mossop for hock.

IMO that team should be well capable of putting 50 on salford.....30 on huddersfield, and building a bit of a momentum for sintellins.

what little patience i had left is wearing thin, and fast, as many have said, the 'youth' only get a chance because he has to pick them

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I dont know if you missed it earlier but he also said Wilkin is far more superior than Hock.

Farrell will not replace Noble as head coach.

If he does, we are taking an insanely stupid risk.

I agree with this... Leeds were due a performance like that, I'm pretty sure that's where they were trying to be 2 weeks ago, we caught the backlash... not panick time by any means, Leeds will stick a lot of points on a lot of teams playing like this (they've done it to Saints in the last 2 GF's!)

And this...

It was discussed on hear that coaches get their chances too early not having served time learning the craft, Barrie was even on last weeks Boots 'n All saying the same... If Faz were to come back, it would be on an apprenticeship for me.

I dont think Noble signed Bailey and Phelps for me is still unproven and needs a run in the side, Phelps has good ability and flair and id like to see him a bit more before i start saying he's gash.

Agreed Noble has a few things to answer for