99% of both fans where well behaved and didnt start anything so lets not let that 1% dominate what was a great game of rugby league....we didnt win and to be honest the better team won and deservedly so .

Warrington fans are scum. Witnessed it at KR this season. Warrington is the only away fixture my Grandad wont attend. He remembers getting punched and pi**ed on back at Wilderspool.

Another mindless idiot, in my view in the same league as the Minority who do cause trouble at matches.

I witnessed nothing but good spirited banter between both sets of fans, and it is disappointing to read of the incidents. But as this thread has proven to the pathetic Original Poster, the embarassment to Rugby League of odemwingie and AJ - Wigan fans caused just as much trouble as Warrington.

To not take action by calling the Police / Complaining to the RFL is simply cowardly. Any dope can hide behind a computer screen whilst choking on sour grapes. If you feel so strongly - take steps to resolve the problem.

All I have moaned about? or all wigan fans have moaned about in this thread? - if it's aimed at all Wigan fans maybe you should sit back and consider for a minute that maybe, just maybe we may have a point ........ we are not on here moaning about the behaviour/attitude of the Wire fans because we lost the game, it's not something we do, otherwise there would be a thread like this every other week as we have lost one or two games this season. No, it's because something different happened on Saturday to what we normally see from opposition fans that has got everyones backs up. However it's not something different to what we have seen from previous games with Wire - I hate wire fixtures because of this, it's always the same.

The atmosphere at that end of the West stand was very intimidating on saturday, in a very sinister, football-like, and unhealthy way. There was not much banter from the wire fans in that stand just massive amounts of goading from people with large chips on shoulders - I would not have liked to have been in there if you had lost.

Still you are in the final now, i hope it helps the chip carried by what appears to be a lot of wire fans a little easier to bear, maybe their behaviour will improve as it's weight lessens, although I won't be holding my breath. Then again if Huddersfield do you at Wembley it might just get bigger.

Saturdays game was a true spectacle and a great advert for rugby league and the best team on the day won - it's a pity that a great many Wigan fans couldn't enjoy it as that, as they were having to keep one eye on the opposition supporters.

Enjoy your trip to Wembley.

I will stand by my opinion that Warrington fans are scum. Ok ?

Unfortunately, incidents happens at games like this. Fans are drinking from early on, and are hyped up, so get giddy and act stupidly at times.

I have seen it at plenty of Grand Finals, between Saints and Leeds, and Wigan and Bradford.

It wasn't Warrington fans on those days.

It was - they were just in cognito

By all means - bash Warrington and the fans all you want.

Although - i'd view fans of your calibre as Scum also.

Aah, apologies, my mistake!

It was at the one I went to, the one when Sinfield didn't take the two points right at the end and opted to run the penalty - we had a posse of tanked up wire fans two rows in front of us in the leeds end of the ground, who once they found out a shedload of wiganers were sat behind them spent most of the match with their backs facing the pitch hurling abuse. I thought at the time WTF have they come to this game for at all? - Rugby was pretty low on their list of priorities that day, and they weren't bits of kids either.

I can't even remember the year or who the opposition was or whether it was a grand final or challenge cup, the only things that stick in my memory of that day are Sinfields massive dropped-bollock with that penalty when we were all screaming "take the two" and the s from Warrington sat next but one row in front of us

Cardiff 2003

In my opinion people who call others scum because of what shirt they wear are less than scum and should go and support football.

And do you remind your own fans of that??

They consistently call us scum regarding the SC fiasco.

On a seperate note, I work in Warrington.

All the guys at work are great, and there has been some mild banter about the match, but most are magnanamous in their victory.

I am having difficulty being really pleased for them as I like them, and squaring that with some of the keyboard warriors, and hooligans that were at the match on Saturday.

Saints fans tvvated leeds fans in a GF are you scum?

I havent heard your club called scum by our fans (certainly not on here) i've heard them called cheats and scabs which is fair enough. And whats more i dont condone calling people scum based on which team they support (maybe you do, i dont know) which is the point i was making, even when i have seen wigan fans dish out disgusting abuse to kids i never called all wigan fans scum, because i realised it was a small minority. Anyone who calls fans scum based on which team they support are watching the wrong sport.

Oh there was plenty PLENTY worse behaviour from your fans! I remember a whole thread on your board wishing Maurice dead. I remember the abuse thrown at our academy when we played you at the Jungle! I remember a concerted campaign on your board by Beth iirc.

So don't come the holier than thou attitude when you have as many idiots in your own club.

If it's the one that I've just looked at it looks like a Wigan fan being removed from the crowd by stewards.

In the more recent past i've heard wigan fans wish maurice dead. As for people on our board starting threads about wigan, complaining on our board about a team cheating is nowhere near as bad as calling all the fans of one team scum. i never said that all clubs dont have idiots, in fact that was rather the point i was making that all clubs have idiots that cause trouble so to call all wire fans scum was discusting. I cant believe your backing up the poster who said these things.

No you haven't.



How about your chairman whipping up frenzied hatred against an U18s side? Is that "nowhere near bad" either? In fact, if you're honest, isn't that just about the worst thing you've ever heard about any chairman of any RL club ever?



Some clubs have many more than others, as Warrington and Castleford should know better than most.



I can't believe that after the behaviour of your club and your fans in the wake of your relegation, that you've got the nerve to show your face on here at all, let alone voice an opinion on hooliganism.

Yes i have heard wigan fans say such things, there has been plenty of hatred from wigan fans towards lindsay and wheelan. Our chairman never did any such thing, an anouncer who is no longer at the club did. the worse thing i have ever heard of a chairman do is deliberatley cheat. As for idiots at clubs most clubs think our fans are great and look forward to coming to our ground, so to sugggest we have more of a problem than other teams is rubbish. Same with warrington fans, no else seems to have a problem with them. Wigan fans have one of the worse reputations in the league, but thats not the issue, the issue is that some fans on here think its ok to label all wire fans as scum, which is disgusting and doesnt belong in rl, i would say the same to any other fans that labelled another set of supporters as scum, the fact that you are supporting the people that say such things say alot about you.

As for nerve i think its amazing the number of wigan fans that had the nerve to go on our board revelling in the fact that you had cheated to stay up. Its a free country and i'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that its wrong to label an entire set of supporters as scum.

Selective memory too, eh? There's a surprise.

If I could be bothered, I'd go looking for the posts made on this board by Cas fans threatening to give Wigan fans a few slaps on their fist visit after relegation. Not that any of you did, which is somehow even more pathetic.

You're a joke, and you know it.

The very fact that you're on here angrily defending Wire fans, who far and away have the worst rep in RL, indicates that you've still got a bug in your ass about Wigan. Grow up and get some self-respect.

Not a selective memory at all, you making stuff up (or being too stupid to know the differance between a chairman and an anouncer) has nothing to do with my memory. I can remember wigan fans threating to start fights as well not that any of them did. i wonder what your reaction to my first post would have been if i supported another club? Would you still have defended the poster for calling all wire fans scum. As for them having the worse reputation in the league thats rubbish and you know it, at least 3 clubs in the league have a worse reputation. The fact of the matter is that you made this about cas vs wigan i didnt, i posted that i didnt think that it was right to label all wire fans as scum who i supported and who the poster i replied to supported shouldnt have even been an issue, but it was made into one, if anything i expected other wigan fans to side with me, as what that poster said has no place in rl. You can put all this effort into slagging of cas but cant be bothered to say anything to a poster with an attitude that doesnt belong in rl, which says alot about you.

I have been to countless Wigan v Warrington matches and never witnessed anything like some of the things that have been mentioned on this thread. I think it is only wise to go on personal experiences rather than second or third hand anecdotal evidence which you don't know all the facts for (words and tone of voice can twist the connotations of what happened). Someone can tell you of seeing someone getting shoved over and omit (or not be aware) that the person getting shoved over had been taunting the person that shoved them.

I was sat in amongst the Warrington fans at Wembley in 1990 with my dad (part of an organised trip and we ended up with the tickets meant for the Wire fans on the trip). Wigan battered Warrington that day and their fans were nothing but good natured throughout.

It is the same scenario for fans of all clubs, the vast majority are good natured and will enjoy a bit of banter and that's it. However particularly for a big game like on Saturday you will get a few hangers on who don't normally go and people are drinking from early in the day. Lots of booze and warm weather are not a good mix and some people will get a bit daft or agressive. You get the same on any weekend in and around pubs.

To tar all people with the same brush just because they support the same club is harsh and a bit daft to be honest. If people feel the need to tell others about one person or a small group who abused them then fine but there is no need to extend your opinion of them to fit everyone that supports the same club.

This is entirely reasonable, but it's hilarious that some little squirt from Castleford (of all places!) comes on here with a holier-than-thou attitude and expects to be taken seriously.

It still stings doesn't it?