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| So if it works, he should still play at 6? Why?
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| I have to say Amos would be my first choice at 1, i think he is waisted on the wing.
Depending on the balance of the squad I would much rather Sam be in the halves as it stands.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"So, in your opinion, did yesterday's experiment not work?
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Its all well and good using one performance against a Quins side as a certainty that Sam Tomkins would be an amazing fullback. Whose to say Sam wouldnt have played just as good at six ?... Am i mistaken or did Sam a year younger have a top game at the Stoop last year under Noble ?..
I'm all for it it it works out better for the good of the team, and maybe with the tactics of switching Pat to fullback for Defensive sets it may combat any frailties in Sams game at fb. But does playing Roberts on the wing not limit his attacking ability ? Him and Sam are IMO our most potent attacking players with ball in hand so i still think Sam at 6 and Roberts at 1 is our best option. If we then sign Finch and let Deacon go into coaching we'll have options to rest our Halfbacks/Hookers and keep them fresh for the more important part of the year ie. Playofffs.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"So if it works, he should still play at 6? Why?'"
Has Sam not worked at 6 this season and most of last? why change things that ain't broke, Amos is far superior at FB than he is at wing
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"unbelievable, we have waited 13 year for a talented home grown half back who can help takes us back to the top and all of a sudden people want to move him to fullback, it beggars belief
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The greatest stand off we had at Wigan Sean Edwards was a revelation at full back
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"Has Sam not worked at 6 this season and most of last? why change things that ain't broke, Amos is far superior at FB than he is at wing'"
Its not often I agree with you (if ever) but Roberts is by far the best 1 at the club and on form prior to injury maybe in the world. He needs to be used at 1. If we intend to bring in another half it must be at the expense positionally of TL.
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| Quote ="jaws1"The greatest stand off we had at Wigan Sean Edwards was a revelation at full back'"
In his early career. Once he found his way into the halfback role, he mainly stayed there.
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| He was superb at FB for most of the game but he should play 6 for now but I am glad he has had the experience and he will learn from it no doubt.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"He was superb at FB for most of the game but he should play 6 for now but I am glad he has had the experience and he will learn from it no doubt.'"
When we have a 1 as good as Amos there is no need to use him at 1. The more I think about it the more ridiculous it seems.
Our wingers will score tries regardless of how good they are. Goulding has 18 this year non of which have been too difficult.
Amos is an outstanding 1 we do not need a class winger we need a class fullback and Amos is just that.
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| I personally feel he is quite wasted at full back as we dont use him as much.
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| Quote ="jonh"When we have a 1 as good as Amos there is no need to use him at 1. The more I think about it the more ridiculous it seems.
Our wingers will score tries regardless of how good they are. Goulding has 18 this year non of which have been too difficult.
Amos is an outstanding 1 we do not need a class winger we need a class fullback and Amos is just that.'"
Agreed.
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| Whether tomkins plays stand off/prop or full back he is the type of player who will always be involved in the game. However, I didn't like him at full back yesterday. It didn't look right, his attacking play was very good but his attacking play is also very good when he is at stand off. But he doesn't look defensively comfortable at full back yet, however I suppose that will come with experience.
A couple of examples stand out.
1) The quins 40-20, tomkins should have called goulding back earlier in the set however he pushed to the corner and left 3 quaters of the pitch open to quins attack and they took advantage of it on a couple of occasions getting us on the back foot.
2) Their second try I think, Sam was nowhere to be seen at full back and I think richards actually tracked back and was the closest man to the tackle.
If we are to sign finch I would love to see him in the halves with sam, where this leaves tommy Id have him as starting 9 with riddell/mcillorum on the bench. Roberts needs to be our 1st choice full back because he looks so confident there. Pat and darrell on the wings. One thing the signing of a player like finch gives us is alot of options which is what you need in a gruelling season when injuries are undoubtedly going to be picked up.
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| Best British half back we've had since Shaun Edwards, no doubt that is where his future lies. No harm now and then moving him around if to cover injuries, or it benefits selection, he would score a bagful at prop!
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| Play Sam anywhere 1 - 13 he will have a go and be superb . He is just Rugby League daft .
Even when the players came out for a stroll around the pitch to check conditions about an hour before kick-off Sam and Liam could not resist having a kick about on thier own . Just so much passion for the game .
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| Quote ="jonh"Its not often I agree with you (if ever) but Roberts is by far the best 1 at the club and on form prior to injury maybe in the world.'"
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| The last thing Wigan/Superleague/the English game need is another imported foreign half back. I personally hope the move to full back was temporary to give Deacon a bit of playing time. Tomkins is without a doubt a 6 and as mentioned Roberts before his injury was without doubt the form player in the league at fullback.
On another note, and another club, does anyone think Danny McGuire would make a fantastic fullback? Watching the game yesterday his support play and timing into the line won Leeds the game. Ive never thought he had the handling skills or presence to be 6 or 7.
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"icon_beat.gif'"
surely you cannot be thinking that Paul "as fast as a car with no engine" Wellens is better than Amos
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"surely you cannot be thinking that Paul "as fast as a car with no engine" Wellens is better than Amos'"
I think it's fair to say Wellens' contribution over his time at Saints has been substantially greater than Amos "one scapegoat season, two good months" Roberts.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I think it's fair to say Wellens' contribution over his time at Saints has been substantially greater than Amos "one scapegoat season, two good months" Roberts.'"
You do know that Amos didnt start his career at Wigan dont you?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I think it's fair to say Wellens' contribution over his time at Saints has been substantially greater than Amos "one scapegoat season, two good months" Roberts.'"
I think you're dramatically underestimating the value of a scapegoat to the average Wigan fan
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"I think you're dramatically underestimating the value of a scapegoat to the average Wigan fan
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"surely you cannot be thinking that Paul "as fast as a car with no engine" Wellens is better than Amos'"
To suggest that Roberts was the best fullback in the world is absolutely hilarious. He wasnt even the best full back in SL and certainly wouldnt havent got a gig at an NRL team as fullback
Jonh is comming out with some beauties recently!
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"To suggest that Roberts was the best fullback in the world is absolutely hilarious. He wasnt even the best full back in SL and certainly wouldnt havent got a gig at an NRL team as fullback
Jonh is comming out with some beauties recently!'"
Although it was for a very short period, he was by far the best fullback in super league at that time, probably the best player when he was on that form. Nowhere near the best in the world though, and he'd have to keep that form up for a couple of seasons to be considered the best overall player.
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"To suggest that Roberts was the best fullback in the world is absolutely hilarious. He wasnt even the best full back in SL and certainly wouldnt havent got a gig at an NRL team as fullback
Jonh is comming out with some beauties recently!'"
Roberts was the best player in super league untill his injury, he would have walked MOS.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Roberts was the best player in super league untill his injury, he would have walked MOS.'"
You don't win MoS in the first 2 months of the season I'm afraid. He might get back towards that form this year and win MOS. He might not and it be remembered as two excellent months amongst lots of average ones.
Just because you start the season well doesn't mean you'll "walk" MOS if you avoid injury - all players' form varies.
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