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| Put William's in the sts team
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| Quote ="jonh"I think Burgess still has more to offer than Grace who I don’t really rate too highly.
Good going forward...that’s it.'"
I was a massive fan of Burgess but since he went to Aus he seems to have lost that speed which for me made him a special player.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"=#0000BF"That’s a load of nonsense. Should we get rid of the top try scorer award because everyone plays in completely different teams? Their stats are absolutely comparable, they both play centre and face the same opposition"
There's no 'nice try' about it. You claimed that stats such as top try scorer proved who was best in a given position regardless of any other factors. You can't have it both ways. So which is it? Is Eden better than Makinson or do you concede that you were talking b0llocks?'"
The key words being stats such and as.
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| Quote ="Pieman"what was? international tries? trophies won? erm.....'"
What does trophies won have to do with individual ability?
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| Quote ="NSW"They will be terrified if we sneak into the playoffs.'"
No we really won’t.
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| Quote ="AS108"No we really won’t.'"
Oh yes you will.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Oh yes you will.'"
If Wane was coach then yes but seeing as though your current coach isn’t very good and thinks Dan Sarginson is the best full back in the world, we definitely won’t.
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| Quote ="AS108"If Wane was coach then yes but seeing as though your current coach isn’t very good and thinks Dan Sarginson is the best full back in the world, we definitely won’t.'"
Oh yes you will.
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| Saints aren’t as amazing as many people are making out.
Wigan aren’t as dreadful as many people are makkng out.
And as the season progresses, this will become more apparent.
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| Even though these teams are pointless and I very rarely do them, a Wigan/Saints XII would be
Coote
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Gildart
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| Quote ="AS108"The key words being stats such and as.'"
What on earth are you on about? You used top try scorer as an indicator of the relative ability of two players. The words you've quoted above are from my post, not yours. You can't hide behind something you didn't even write! If you'd put 'such as' in your post, then fair enough. You didn't.
Frankly, you're not worth replying to. You haven't the slightest inkling of how to compose and maintain a coherent argument. So you resort to using individual soundbites with no meaning or substance whatsoever and stand back thinking you've been somehow profound.
I was aware that trying to hold a discussion with you reminded me of something but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Then my 5 year old tried to convince me they should have some more sweets before tea and suddenly it hit me. I think we'll leave it there.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Saints aren’t as amazing as many people are making out.
Wigan aren’t as dreadful as many people are makkng out.
And as the season progresses, this will become more apparent.'"
Totally agree on Saints. They’ve got a top coach but it doesn’t take much for the deck of cards to come tumbling down. It’ll take longer for him to get poached by an Aussie club then it did with Maguire from us because he’s not at a club with as big a profile. He’ll go eventually and once he leaves and that front row is broken up by retirement and Thompson quits for the NRL we’ll then see just how average some of these players being lauded really are.
No doubting they’re the best side in superleague but it’s built totally on a top coach and a great front row. That will all get broken up within the next couple of years.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Totally agree on Saints. They’ve got a top coach but it doesn’t take much for the deck of cards to come tumbling down. It’ll take longer for him to get poached by an Aussie club then it did with Maguire from us because he’s not at a club with as big a profile. He’ll go eventually and once he leaves and that front row is broken up by retirement and Thompson quits for the NRL we’ll then see just how average some of these players being lauded really are.
No doubting they’re the best side in superleague but it’s built totally on a top coach and a great front row. That will all get broken up within the next couple of years.'"
Absolutely spot on put their front row in Wigan shirts and Holbrook coaching us and I honestly believe we would be better than this current Saints side. They rely massively on these 2 factors.
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| Quote ="billys pineapple"Absolutely spot on put their front row in Wigan shirts and Holbrook coaching us and I honestly believe we would be better than this current Saints side. They rely massively on these 2 factors.'"
What a silly post. Put tedesco, the Fox, Munster, Coyner etc in our team and we would be better than the current saints team.
We are light years ahead of your lot man for man
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"What a silly post. Put tedesco, the Fox, Munster, Coyner etc in our team and we would be better than the current saints team.
We are light years ahead of your lot man for man'"
You were last year but I think the super league trophy still resides in Wigan
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| Quote ="hatty"You were last year but I think the super league trophy still resides in Wigan
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Nail hit firmly on the head!! No trophies handed out in June.
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| I have stood on grounds in July and called our season before later pulling myself around OT when we win the league.
We all laughed at Leeds for finishing 5th..."they won't beat x away, they won't go to Catalan on the same day (something all clubs now do) and win.....etc etc
Who....SERIOUSLY...will write Wigan off if we make the 5???? Imagine if we make the top 3 and have 2 chances? When did we last lose 2 playoff games?
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I have stood on grounds in July and called our season before later pulling myself around OT when we win the league.
We all laughed at Leeds for finishing 5th..."they won't beat x away, they won't go to Catalan on the same day (something all clubs now do) and win.....etc etc
Who....SERIOUSLY...will write Wigan off if we make the 5???? Imagine if we make the top 3 and have 2 chances? When did we last lose 2 playoff games?'"
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"2011'"
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| 4th, albeit temporary... How crap is the rest of SL if we have gotten up to 4th?
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| For me, like London, I think the coach has got them exceptionally fit. They can run hard from deep in attack and have a great defensive line, for 80 minutes.
I think that’s why London may stay up and Saints will finish top.
But they aren’t unbeatable. Twice this season Wire have been their match until lack of discipline has seen someone sin binned.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"4th, albeit temporary... How crap is the rest of SL if we have gotten up to 4th?'"
Sadly, very.
A big reason why crowds are down. That and the format of the league means that games aren't box office anymore.
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| Your original post:
Quote ="Phuzzy"=#0000BF"That’s a load of nonsense. Should we get rid of the top try scorer award because everyone plays in completely different teams? Their stats are absolutely comparable, they both play centre and face the same opposition"
There's no 'nice try' about it. You claimed that stats such as top try scorer proved who was best in a given position regardless of any other factors. You can't have it both ways. So which is it? Is Eden better than Makinson or do you concede that you were talking b0llocks?'"
Quote ="Phuzzy"What on earth are you on about? You used top try scorer as an indicator of the relative ability of two players. The words you've quoted above are from my post, not yours. You can't hide behind something you didn't even write! If you'd put 'such as' in your post, then fair enough. You didn't.
Frankly, you're not worth replying to. You haven't the slightest inkling of how to compose and maintain a coherent argument. So you resort to using individual soundbites with no meaning or substance whatsoever and stand back thinking you've been somehow profound.
I was aware that trying to hold a discussion with you reminded me of something but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Then my 5 year old tried to convince me they should have some more sweets before tea and suddenly it hit me. I think we'll leave it there.'"
And I’m the one who hasn’t the slighest inkling of how to compose and maintain a coherent argument? Idiot.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"For me, like London, I think the coach has got them exceptionally fit. They can run hard from deep in attack and have a great defensive line, for 80 minutes.
I think that’s why London may stay up and Saints will finish top.
But they aren’t unbeatable. Twice this season Wire have been their match until lack of discipline has seen someone sin binned.'"
How can you have been our match when we’ve beat you on both occasions? The first one was an absolute thumping as well. You don’t know whether you’d have won both games if the sin bins didn’t happen. We’re ahead of you by miles because we’re a far better side that is stronger in every position apart from hooker.
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| Quote ="billys pineapple"Absolutely spot on put their front row in Wigan shirts and Holbrook coaching us and I honestly believe we would be better than this current Saints side. They rely massively on these 2 factors.'"
That is the most pointless post I’ve read on this forum.
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