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| Clinton schicoffsky ( spelling) has said on twitter the club owes 400k between 7 players for outstanding pension payments
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| The RFL pushed Crusaders too high too soon IMO. If they'd been allowed to develop in the Championship for longer instead of being thrown in at the deep end in SL they might have been in a position now to apply for a SL license for 2012. It's a shame really becuase I think there is a market for rugby league in Wales. It just needs to be catered for better by the RFL.
I just hope that this doesn't put people off the idea of expansion of the game. Rugby League still needs to grow because standing still these days is no longer an option. If you aren't growing, you're shrinking
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| I personally am gutted. This season I was finally in a position to be able to go to the Wrexham game and I thoroughly enjoyed the day and was looking forward to next year and now it wont be there and I dont blame Crusaders I blame the RFL because, though without them I wouldnt have been able to enjoy this year, if they hadnt got it so wrong in the first place and brought them in so early then theyd probably still be around. I know they applied for a licence but the RFL shouldnt have seen pound sign they should have laughed it off and said "no wait 3 more years."
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| Quote ="Geoff"The RFL need to set out in detail how they viewed the relative merits of the two clubs' applications. It's no good just asserting that Wakey's was better than Fax's, without explaining why.
Looking at the factors they're supposed to take into account:
Stadium - clearly Fax
Finances - again, clearly Fax
Youth set up - dunno, but pretty equal, I'd think.
Crowds - of course a SL team will always win that one (if only because of away supporters),
but as I've mentioned earlier, Fax drew bigger crowds when both teams were last in SL.
On field performances - again, can't really compare, but Fax fulfilled that criterion, and Wakey have hardly
been setting SL alight.
Paint Drying - the only one that Wakey win, IMO.'"
Geoff, Wakeys youth set up is graded A+ just the same as Wigans, only 4 teams are graded this high.
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| i was certain wakey didnt have a reserve grade, oh yeah wait thats the first team!
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Geoff, Wakeys youth set up is graded A+ just the same as Wigans, only 4 teams are graded this high.'"
what
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| Didn't wakey have a good under 18s side last year? Or did I just make that up?
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Geoff, Wakeys youth set up is graded A+ just the same as Wigans, only 4 teams are graded this high.'"
I did say "dunno", but I'm surprised at that grading, from what I've seen of their Academy sides over the past 3 years or so (and I do go to all our home games). We battered them something like 44-6 a couple of weeks ago.
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| wakey are the first team that come to mind for leaching other clubs released players.
im really shocked that they havent been given the boot
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| how can wakey has a reseve team as good as wigan? stupid comment, half of the league is made up of players from our academy, i dont know of ne 1 coming through the wakey ranks,
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| on boots 'n' all last night Halifax chairman aluded to the fact they dont have one big benefactor to support them in Super League. What worries me is if these benefactors in other clubs just decide to call it a day and don't put anymore money in. I agree with Clarkey that these clubs need to be able to stand up on their own two feet and start being run as succesful businesses.
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| obviously the rfl feel different, from the articles and interviews ive seen the halifax bid was based on that fact.
none of this really adds up, and there seems to be some underlying fault here that we must be missing
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| Quote ="gunit2k9"on boots 'n' all last night Halifax chairman aluded to the fact they dont have one big benefactor to support them in Super League. What worries me is if these benefactors in other clubs just decide to call it a day and don't put anymore money in. I agree with Clarkey that these clubs need to be able to stand up on their own two feet and start being run as succesful businesses.'"
Very much so, and is exactly what Ian Lenagan has been saying from day 1 here.
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| I dont mind Halifax, but before you lot go on about how crap Wakefield are, they do have a solid youth policy, under 15's and 16's scholarships, and a current under 18's, Halifax have none of them, how on earth can you be granted a SL licence with zero youth policy ?
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| Quote ="i8no-one"I dont mind Halifax, but before you lot go on about how crap Wakefield are, they do have a solid youth policy, under 15's and 16's scholarships, and a current under 18's, Halifax have none of them, how on earth can you be granted a SL licence with zero youth policy ?'"
Like this:
Halifax you are granted a license on the basis that you setup a youth system.
Just like:
Wakefield you are granted a license on the basis you swap that shed for somewhere nice.
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| Hardly fair to judge on their youth policy
Wakefield are a Super League club and that is a huge advantage over a championship side. Not only in resources but in being able to attract the top young talent and develop that talent.
That in my opinion is why the license system is flawed. Very difficult to get out of the championship unless you have someone who will come in and put all that in place before they make an application for no guarantees they will even be granted a license. No chance of really increasing their revenue by playing in the championship but I'm sure that would change if Halifax or some other clubs were given the opportunity.
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| Quote ="hula89"Like this:
Halifax you are granted a license on the basis that you setup a youth system.
Just like:
Wakefield you are granted a license on the basis you swap that shed for somewhere nice.'"
Wasn't that what Wakefield were told last time?
From my point of view, Halifax have done absolutely everything asked of them to try and gain a license.
Wakefield haven't got a new stadium, haven't improved their current one either (with they were told to do last round of licenses) and have since gone bust one.
Only 1 club deserves the financial benefits and opportunities that the license brings imo.
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| Quote ="gunit2k9"Hardly fair to judge on their youth policy
Wakefield are a Super League club and that is a huge advantage over a championship side. Not only in resources but in being able to attract the top young talent and develop that talent.
That in my opinion is why the license system is flawed. Very difficult to get out of the championship unless you have someone who will come in and put all that in place before they make an application for no guarantees they will even be granted a license. No chance of really increasing their revenue by playing in the championship but I'm sure that would change if Halifax or some other clubs were given the opportunity.'"
This
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| Wrexham FC have called off two friendlies. Players decided not to play after being told they won't be paid. Why do I get the feeling that this time next year there will be blokes wearing hi-vis vests, hard hats, drinking mugs of tea on the Racecourse?
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| Quote ="i8no-one"I dont mind Halifax, but before you lot go on about how crap Wakefield are, they do have a solid youth policy, under 15's and 16's scholarships, and a current under 18's, Halifax have none of them, how on earth can you be granted a SL licence with zero youth policy ?'"
As others have pointed out, that's not a fair comparison, but when both Fax & Wakey were in SL together, Fax consistently finished above Wakey in the U21's league table (in fact, in 2002 they finished 5th, above the likes of St. Helens & Warrington).
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| Quote ="hula89"Like this:
Halifax you are granted a license on the basis that you setup a youth system.
Just like:
Wakefield you are granted a license on the basis you swap that shed for somewhere nice.'"
I thought the 1 st lot of licences from the start said you had to have a new house by 2012 . If so and wakefeild don't sort it do they lose there licence next year .... RFL bend rule after rule absolute jokes . Before crusaders pulled there licence I wonder who's head was for the chop because if it wasn't crusaders they should of still gone through with there original chosen team and let another 1 in like fax ,
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