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| Quote ="prop joe"SL stats backs up what i said though so i must have some idea.
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When you go through them all, do you also notice the stat above it named "missed tackles". Or do you just ignore every other stat?
Apart from Morley + Graham, i'd have Fielden over anyone. Including Peacock.
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| Quote ="prop joe"SL stats backs up what i said though so i must have some idea.
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Well prove it! get them posted you oracle of rugby league knowledge .
i'll give you a hand lets start with .
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Stuart Fielden
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| Quote ="prop joe"i've no idea and don't really care.'"
Hows about Jamie Peacock's stats from only 17 games , yup you know i think you maybe onto something .oops SORRY i meant on something ,especially as you posted "i've no idea and don't really care" yet you feel the need to post on the subject and even reply .
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| If you don't like the sky commentary team then turn off the sound and if you still want a commentary on the game turn on to your local radio station who are doing the game.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"If you don't like the sky commentary team then turn off the sound and if you still want a commentary on the game turn on to your local radio station who are doing the game.'"
TBH we should all write to sky and ask them to add a yellow button to the red one which could be used to change the audio stream to "game and crowd audio only, no commentators", and charge you 50p to use it, I'd pay and Sky would probably make a small fortune
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| Quote ="prop joe"
i'll wager that over the course of the season Fielden's dropped the ball more times than most other forwards in super league though.'"
Realised how completely utterly fecking stupid you look yet?
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"Realised how completely utterly fecking stupid you look yet?'"
Prop Joe was once Fieldens bitch in his early days and now as a unhealthy jealous hate for the chap.
its clear as day.
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| Quote ="Howard Beale"Well prove it! get them posted you oracle of rugby league knowledge .
i'll give you a hand lets start with .
Garreth Carvell
Apps 19
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Stuart Fielden
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I said "most" forwards as in more than 50% but well done on finding 1 with more errors than Fielden though, how long did it take?
How much did he cost again?
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| Are you a politician Prop Joe. Keep uisng statistics for your own purpose. Fielden has less errors per game than even Peacock. Or should we look at missed tackles. Cmon lets all use statistics like Joe does to suit his arguement.
James Graham 34 Missed Tackles
Jamie Peacock 25 Missed Tackles
Michael Vella 38 Missed Tackles.
Adrian Morley 38 Missed Tackles
Fielden 18.
If anyone think that Fielden is not one of the best props in SL at this moment in time. Is either an idiot or has no idea about the game. Against Lees he was the best forward on the pitch and on Friday he owned Vella. He makes errors but i'd guess that it less over the last few weeks than the start of the season.
Looking at Morely last night and Fielden on Friday and against Leeds you would question who of the 2 is in the running for MOS.
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| Quote ="tank123"Are you a politician Prop Joe. Keep uisng statistics for your own purpose. Fielden has less errors per game than even Peacock. Or should we look at missed tackles. Cmon lets all use statistics like Joe does to suit his arguement.
James Graham 34 Missed Tackles
Jamie Peacock 25 Missed Tackles
Michael Vella 38 Missed Tackles.
Adrian Morley 38 Missed Tackles
Fielden 18.
If anyone think that Fielden is not one of the best props in SL at this moment in time. Is either an idiot or has no idea about the game. Against Lees he was the best forward on the pitch and on Friday he owned Vella. He makes errors but i'd guess that it less over the last few weeks than the start of the season.
Looking at Morely last night and Fielden on Friday and against Leeds you would question who of the 2 is in the running for MOS.'"
I don't remember mentioning missed tackles, i called him butter fingers as to me he does seem to drop the ball alot more than most forwards and i never mentioned stats until someone on here cried like a baby.
Regardless of his other attributes he's terrible at keeping hold of the ball and what's worse (for Wigan and potentially England) is it's usually down to opposition players winding him up.
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| Quote ="prop joe"I said "most" forwards as in more than 50% but well done on finding 1 with more errors than Fielden though, how long did it take?
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It took very little time at all to prove you wrong.
YOU said that the stats would back YOU up ,I said "WELL PROVE IT THEN " and so far YOU have provided exactly 0% even though as stated i've provided some 200% more stats than YOU to get YOU going ,and we're still waiting hours later for your claimed proof that over 50% of all forwards had better handling stats than Stuart Fielden
PS. percentages of games payed against errors made as quoted by ME means both Carvell and Peacock have MORE errors per game than Fielden . HTH
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| But the real point to your post is the "i've no idea and don't really care." comments because your just a Troll who spouts crap, and what has his costs got to do with anything thats been posted on this thread ?
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| Quote ="Howard Beale"It took very little time at all to prove you wrong.
YOU said that the stats would back YOU up ,I said "WELL PROVE IT THEN " and so far YOU have provided exactly 0% even though as stated i've provided some 200% more stats than YOU to get YOU going ,and we're still waiting hours later for your claimed proof that over 50% of all forwards had better handling stats than Stuart Fielden
PS. percentages of games payed against errors made as quoted by ME means both Carvell and Peacock have MORE errors per game than Fielden . HTH'"
Sorry have i missed something, where did you prove me wrong? And as if i'm going to waste my day collating stats to prove a point on a forum, especially when deep down you know as well as everyone else on here that i'm right.
25000 posts though? You've obviously got the time so i'll come back in a few days when you've got all the figures together for us.
FWIW i chose 10 fowards at random last night and 9 of them had a lower error count than old butter fingers.
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Sorry have i missed something, where did you prove me wrong? And as if i'm going to waste my day collating stats to prove a point on a forum, especially when deep down you know as well as everyone else on here that i'm right.
25000 posts though? You've obviously got the time so i'll come back in a few days when you've got all the figures together for us.
FWIW i chose 10 fowards at random last night and 9 of them had a lower error count than old butter fingers.
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HHHAHAHAHAHAHAH thank you for proving without reasonable doubt that you really are thicker than my bulging wallet .
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| The answer to YOU providing the stats to back YOUR claim up then is NO , what a surprise.
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Mate, you know where they are so go and spend your day looking for a list of forwards with a higher error count then you can post those 5 names on here to prove me 500% wrong, or something.
Have fun - www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php
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Mate, you know where they are so go and spend your day looking for a list of forwards with a higher error count then you can post those 5 names on here to prove me 500% wrong, or something.
Have fun - www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I thought that Micky Vella said that you were not going to OT because the dobbins were !!
Clearly he was suffering from a bang on the head afterall !!
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Shock, Horror.
A Super League captain stated his team were good enough on their day to the Grand Final at O.T.
I believe a second rate dull coach also claimed similar, but it came back to bite his booty after the derby play off was over at half time.
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| Quote ="prop joe"Not at all, Fielden's vastly overrated and Phil Clarke's becoming more and more of an embarrassment the closer Wigan get to the GF.
There's no bitterness in agreeing with what everyone else knows.
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Quote ="prop joe"Mate, you know where they are so go and spend your day looking for a list of forwards with a higher error count then you can post those 5 names on here to prove me 500% wrong, or something.
Have fun - www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php'"
I'll take that challenge. Fortunately the Mrs is out today, I have plenty of spare time and no shame whatsoever, and rather geekily found myself interested in the outcome. I've not looked at EVERY forward and missed a load but here's a few for you to ponder (actually only took about 5 minutes).
And that's without going into averages, etc...
Stuart Fielden - 18
Ben Harrison - 18
Joe Westerman - 18
Richard Moore - 19
Ben Westwood - 19
Steve Snitch - 19
Garreth Carvell - 19
Kevin Sinfield - 20
Lee Gilmour - 20
Jamie Jones-Buchanan - 20
Rhys Lovegrove - 20
Jason Chan - 20
Brett Ferres - 21
Ben Galea - 21
Danny Tickle - 22
Glenn Morrison - 22
Sean O'Loughlin - 24
Clint Newton - 25
Oliver Wilkes - 25
Joel Tomkins - 26
Oliver Elima - 26
Steve Menzies - 32
Jason Demetriou - 36
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Have fun - www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php'"
I'll take that challenge. Fortunately the Mrs is out today, I have plenty of spare time and no shame whatsoever, and rather geekily found myself interested in the outcome. I've not looked at EVERY forward and missed a load but here's a few for you to ponder (actually only took about 5 minutes).
And that's without going into averages, etc...
Stuart Fielden - 18
Ben Harrison - 18
Joe Westerman - 18
Richard Moore - 19
Ben Westwood - 19
Steve Snitch - 19
Garreth Carvell - 19
Kevin Sinfield - 20
Lee Gilmour - 20
Jamie Jones-Buchanan - 20
Rhys Lovegrove - 20
Jason Chan - 20
Brett Ferres - 21
Ben Galea - 21
Danny Tickle - 22
Glenn Morrison - 22
Sean O'Loughlin - 24
Clint Newton - 25
Oliver Wilkes - 25
Joel Tomkins - 26
Oliver Elima - 26
Steve Menzies - 32
Jason Demetriou - 36
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Sorry have i missed something, where did you prove me wrong? And as if i'm going to waste my day collating stats to prove a point on a forum, especially when deep down you know as well as everyone else on here that i'm right.
25000 posts though? You've obviously got the time so i'll come back in a few days when you've got all the figures together for us.
FWIW i chose 10 fowards at random last night and 9 of them had a lower error count than old butter fingers.
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....and 9 out of 10 posters on these boards aren't so transparent when they make things up. Pity you're not one of them.
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Quote ="prop joe"I don't remember mentioning missed tackles, i called him butter fingers as to me he does seem to drop the ball alot more than most forwards and i never mentioned stats until someone on here cried like a baby.
Regardless of his other attributes he's terrible at keeping hold of the ball and what's worse (for Wigan and potentially England) is it's usually down to opposition players winding him up.'"
Funny that isnt it you quote 'stats' people post them proving hes makes much less mistakes than pretty much every other prop then its not about that what a tool you are
Few more..
Tackle busts - no 9 on the top 25 (highest prop in the list)
superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... 10&hp2=153
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Quote ="prop joe"I don't remember mentioning missed tackles, i called him butter fingers as to me he does seem to drop the ball alot more than most forwards and i never mentioned stats until someone on here cried like a baby.
Regardless of his other attributes he's terrible at keeping hold of the ball and what's worse (for Wigan and potentially England) is it's usually down to opposition players winding him up.'"
Funny that isnt it you quote 'stats' people post them proving hes makes much less mistakes than pretty much every other prop then its not about that what a tool you are
Few more..
Tackle busts - no 9 on the top 25 (highest prop in the list)
superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... 10&hp2=153
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