And this is proof that Stats paper over the cracks, Moran was absolute sh*te at Wigan.

The entire team was e, any half back playing behind a sh|tehouse pack is going to look sh|t.

Ged Byrne & Ellery Hanley Widnes away 89 I think

Stats dont lie do they

agree, stinking partnership.

Personally I don't agree with the sympathetic view of Denis Moran's time at Wigan.

Fair enough, maybe more was expected of him at Wigan but he had time to adapt.

Any Wigan halfback who runs round in circles, kicks the ball out on the full consistently, throws suicide passes regularly and perhaps most importantly has a poor attitude and makes a tit of himself off the field IMO deserves all the criticism and ridicule he gets.

Sam Tomkins and Thomas LeuLaui.

























Before I get crucified, I'm just kidding



Denis Moran and Danny Orr.

Agreed.

People who try and say "his game wasn't suited to Wigan's" or "he was a support player not a play-maker" are blinkered.

He was a full time SL professional player, he should of been able to adapt his game to Wigan's style of play.

If he was a support player, he had no business being given the 7 shirt and being the main playmaker. He should of just been stuck on the wing.

Any excuse to post this. I can't remember who did it!

I literally LOL everytime I see that

Clinch and Chester were very poor.
Got to admit it though I did like it when Gavin Clinch used to steal the ball and score on a pretty regular basis.
Didn't he get the nickname Gavin Pinch?

Legendary. Next you will be digging up the Phil Bailey look a like thread

The most annoying thing about Clinch and Chester was that they were a tries and tested partnership with Halifax and were brought as a settled pair and they totally bottled it once they came to Wigan, they had the talent and the ability at Super League level to tear any team apart but totally failed.

Moran's Wikipedia...

Brown and Moran? One passes it to touch and the other runs round in circles

Ged Byrne and Craig Rodgers were 6 and 7 for both Easter games in 1987-88.

How do they rank? Bit young for me.

We won both games though - 10-9 at Saints and 42-14 at home to Swinton.

I recall that was some clever trickery by the coach, how well it worked. O'Loughlin played stand off.

Well it didn't work - we lost.

Must have done Ok we won at saints, and as I recall it was one of the few games Craig Rodgers played for Wigan

Moran was SL top scorer in 2004 and then came to wigan and was bottom try scorer

Moran was Wigans top try scorer when he came here in 2005.

Indeed, 15?

It's quite funny really, as fans we're so quick to label a player as garbage when often it's more the case that things didn't work out for them in a Wigan shirt.

Greg Florimo is actually a good example, very poor with Mark Reber for us, but there's no denying that outside of a Wigan shirt Greg was a really good player - we just got him a few years too late like with a lot of Aussies over here.

dennis moran and danny orr.

moran was just garbage and he brought orr down with him, danny orr when partnered with dobson was a totally different player however.

felt sorry for brown then, it was obvious he had the talent but we definately didnt bring him into the first team correctly, he seems just to be getting his career back on track now to be fair to him.

does anyone know what happened to moran after he left us?

however dennis moran did win us the game against UTC in the cup at the jjb, how embarrasing that night was, getting tonked by a part time french club.

Moran joined Widnes following his time with Wigan.

At London Moran was a quality player and Adrian Lam recommended him to Wigan as a player he rated highly.

I believe Moran could of been a success at Wigan playing off somebody like Micheal Dobson but it was clearly a mistake handing him the main play making role vacated by Lam before him.