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| Quote ="DaveO"Just a few posts above yours here I posted this:
"Whenever anyone quotes a club official such as IL or the coach to back up a point I have seen comments suggesting these quotes are not to be believed. "
So aren't you doing exactly as I mention above here and are suggesting when Wane said he wanted to win every game he didn't actually really mean it in the sense it wasn't his plan to do so?
Because if you are I think you are 100% wrong.
And no I wouldn't expect a coach to say anything else but there is a difference between stating the obvious (that you want to win every game) and setting out [uto actually do it[/u. Wane did, in my opinion do the latter. No spin. No lies.'"
I think that was his ambition too.
Whether he remained hidebound by that as injuries and absences kicked in, I don't know. He certainly rested players in at least one game ... for which we paid a price. He's not new to coaching. I'd imagine he had at least a few additional tricks up his sleeve.
My main thought on this is that I don't think it was particularly controversial comment. As a Wigan fan, I would hope the Wigan coach would set his stall out to win as many games as possible.
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| I'm waiting for a coach to state that they are planning on winning just enough games to get into a position where they can peak at the final moment (when all other teams are trying to do the same) and win everything.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"todays
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I was making a comment. I'm not going to try to educate you. If you don't get my pithy remarks, you can pith off.
Lighten up, you short-stay overrated Aussie.
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| Quote ="jackdog"Will you both please stop saying 'empirical'.
It sounds dead clever, but sadly you ain't using it proper...'"
I always buy some mint empiricals when I go to the pictures.
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| In future years, most people will forget which teams won which games, and just look at the facts of who won the LLS, GF or CC. Irrelevant if they fielded a weakened team at any point in the season, or why, as all teams will suffer suspensions and injuries.
Chelsea won the Champions League this year, but it doesn't really matter how it happened, just that it did. The name is on the trophy, the star is on the shirt.
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| Not posted in a while, so I am not reading through 15 pages!
I'll head back to the original post....
Wane simply has to deliver this season, his recent comments on the Wigan Today website (not sure which paper it was printed in), suggests he is confident. Confident that the team will come out with a 'different attitude' and that our team is 'in great shape.'
Comments like that from any head coach says to me "He must be confident of a trophy this season". Granted our team does look weaker this season, I myself am unsure about the qualities of Blake Green and Scott Taylor, but the current standards of SL probably mean that Wigan will be there or there abouts at the end of the season.
SW will not lose his job during the season IMHO, IL doesn't have a trigger happy finger. Come the end of the 2013 season though, its anyones guess. It'll just depend on results and success.
Not like it matters, the world ends in 3 days anyway
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| Wane is now 5/1 2nd favourite to be the first to leave (Vievers favourite at 4/1). Do the bookies know something?
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| Quote ="Finfin"Wane is now 5/1 2nd favourite to be the first to leave (Vievers favourite at 4/1). Do the bookies know something?'"
not normally when it comes to rl
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| A lot has changed this past week although I don't think Shaun will be sacked during the season.
The squad is still a good one for Super League but after Hock's loan the departure of all those senior players has now to be looked at as more than coincidence.
As someone mentioned, I think SW will see the season out.
If we win a trophy then he's safe and will get the one year option extention. If we end trophyless then it could very well be goodbye. That's the standards that have been set.
Either way IL has given himself time to find a replacement coach if he feels he needs one.
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| Unless there's something that has gone on behind closed doors that we don't know about, there's no chance Wane will leave first.
He had a good first season as a Head Coach getting to both Semi Finals, so will be given this year at least IMO.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"Unless there's something that has gone on behind closed doors that we don't know about, there's no chance Wane will leave first.
He had a good first season as a Head Coach getting to both Semi Finals, so will be given this year at least IMO.'"
The departure of Hock in mysterious circumstances, the non appearance of Sam preseason....yes, something has gone on, we just dont know what it is........but bookies are mostly right.
So my moneys on Wane not seeing the season out, and Sam leaving before the seasons out
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"The departure of Hock in mysterious circumstances, the non appearance of Sam preseason....yes, something has gone on, we just dont know what it is........but bookies are mostly right.
So my moneys on Wane not seeing the season out, and Sam leaving before the seasons out'"
Sam is /has been training and took part in the big fight on Tuesday /Wednesday.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Sam is /has been training and took part in the big fight on Tuesday /Wednesday.'"
may i ask what big fight?
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| Quote ="the wrestler"may i ask what big fight?'"
Would that be something to do with snow & balls?
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"Would that be something to do with snow & balls?'"
I believe Charnley is still trying to find his car.
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| Far more likely Mr Lenagan will allow Shaun Wane to run down his contract as he did with Brian Noble.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"Far more likely Mr Lenagan will allow Shaun Wane to run down his contract as he did with Brian Noble.'"
If Wigan win one of the major trophies (or get to one of the finals) this year do you think Wane's contract will be renewed?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If Wigan win one of the major trophies (or get to one of the finals) this year do you think Wane's contract will be renewed?'"
I would think Wigan have to win either the SL GF or the CC. LL or reaching a final will not be enough.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"I would think Wigan have to win either the SL GF or the CC. LL or reaching a final will not be enough.'"
If Wane guides Wigan to the league leaders shield with the squad he has been provided with he'll deserve coach of the year let alone an extra year on his contract.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"If Wane guides Wigan to the league leaders shield with the squad he has been provided with he'll deserve coach of the year let alone an extra year on his contract.'"
I agree.... Hope this does not constitute bullying....
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"If Wane guides Wigan to the league leaders shield with the squad he has been provided with he'll deserve coach of the year let alone an extra year on his contract.'"
Recent interviews with Ian Lenagan and the players say otherwise. LL should matter but the reality is it is meaningless.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"
He had a good first season as a Head Coach getting to both Semi Finals, so will be given this year at least IMO.'"
as there are only 4 decent teams in super league a semi-final place should be viewed a formality not an achievement
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| It is good though to see that the Shaun Wane bashers are still out in force, the same ones that were criticising him before he had even had a game in charge. God help him the first time we lose this season.
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| Quote ="Famous"It is good though to see that the Shaun Wane bashers are still out in force, the same ones that were criticising him before he had even had a game in charge. God help him the first time we lose this season.'"
Some people are merely repeating what Wigan RLFC, the owner, players and coach have said. So you not actually sniping at posters, you are disagreeing with Wigan RLFC.
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| Quote ="Famous"It is good though to see that the Shaun Wane bashers are still out in force, the same ones that were criticising him before he had even had a game in charge. God help him the first time we lose this season.'"
There was no criticism of Wane implied or stated in the original post, it gave the facts of the betting odds for the first SL coach to leave this season as an interesting talking point.
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