You are a fan... Deacon has to make a living. It's a very difficult position for the individual... For us fans it's purely a moral judgement.

And not everyone that loves League hates Union

Wigan can be partly blamed for the revival of RU when they played Bath and the Twickenham sevens where they came back from what was an impending defeat.They showed RU how fit and skilfull and opened their eyes and realised all was not right in the RU game RU at the time had just gone full pro and who was the first person to appoint Phil Larder the Great Britain coach since then we have had a steady stream of RL coaches /players Hanley,Edwards,Farrell just to name a few would Edwards have stayed in RL if at the time as the Clubs were obsessed in NRL coaches .

Are you involved in a public high profile position with media attention?

I'm sure if you are your new employer would love to see it splashed all over the media that you are only going for the money.

bull, also who says deacon hates ru?

No amount of coaching could make that happen, without a lot of fundamental rule changes.

I told my former employer as to why I was leaving and what I was leaving for. Deacon isn't exactly going into a high profile role he's basically doing the same job as he was doing at Wigan only he will now be doing it and getting........ more money

And will also be doing it in a far bigger sport

King regards

King james

And it's bigger in England now than ever before thanks to Wigan RL's contributions. Not that I'm totally happy about that, but we haven't got room for all these lads.

Probably get Harris back

I read a piece with Wane yesterday saying he'll get Joel Tomkins and Micky Mac more involved with the coaching side of things now to add to Lockers and Bowen who already do bits. He also stated we may not bother replacing Deacon.

I can't agree with that strategy tbh. Those guys need to concentrate on playing and a club the size of Wigan needs specialist coaches.

Spot on.

In the cap era coaches and facilities are the two areas a club can really invest in to gain a competitive edge. Why we'd not maximise this is beyond me? You only need to look at the NRL to see the number of coaches each club runs with, to understand what a 'proper setup' looks like.

I just don't get Wane and his methods. For me he's quickly turning into another Milward i.e another big mouth with an even bigger ego who at the heart of it is a crap coach. Another day passes and we move another step away from all the good work/foundations Madge put in place.

I'd love to see how those fans who worship the ground Wane walks on justify this.

Conversely at Leeds, they have one coach - McDermott - not even an assistant. Seems to work ok for them.

And at Warrington, their assistant has been getting blamed for most defeats...

Whilst at Brisbane they have three. Two of the three have previous/current head coach experience as well.

Seeing that they they are sitting top of the hardest rugby comp in the world and are coached by the grand master of RL coaches I'm inclined to take their way as best practice.

Interesting article on the benefits of an experienced backroom staff:

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We should be looking at this for next season imo. Highly experienced head coach with 2-3 assistants.

Boring, boring Broncos, thoughbut.

John Winder is already assistant coach at Wigan, so in reality we have one for the rest of the season.

Isn't Winder head of youth? That's what his LinkedIn says anyway.

I think Matty Peet may have stepped in to that role now.

The obvious reason why no assistant has been appointed is that SW won't be here next year unless by some miracle we win the GF therefore, there is no way IL will let SW appoint someone and then have to pay him off if a new guy comes in with his own assistant.

I'm starting to wonder what we actually practice in training - do we have any set pieces in the locker? We just seem to do the same old move every game i.e. try to get an overlap and pass it out the back to the fullback to set something up on the wing.

Quote ="Madderzahatter"I'm starting to wonder what we actually practice in training - do we have any set pieces in the locker? We just seem to do the same old move every game i.e. try to get an overlap and pass it out the back to the fullback to set something up on the wing.'" But we're third for most offloads, which would suggest we are not quite as structured and robotic as a lot of fans think we are. www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club_stats

Quote ="Madderzahatter"I'm starting to wonder what we actually practice in training - do we have any set pieces in the locker? We just seem to do the same old move every game i.e. try to get an overlap and pass it out the back to the fullback to set something up on the wing.'" But we're third for most offloads, which would suggest we are not quite as structured and robotic as a lot of fans think we are. www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club_stats

But it seems like most of those are inside our own 10...

And most of those are probably Gelling heart in your mouth offloads..

He's 7th in the league for offloads. Joel is 3rd. Cuthbertson at Leeds has more than twice as many as anyone else, which is completely insane.