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| Quote ="DaveO"I have always said I thought he was very frustrated under Noble and this all came out when he was interviewed just after getting the assistants job when Madge was signed up. He was not happy with the level of professionalism at the club and clearly felt it wasn't being coached in the way it was when he was player under the like of Monie.
That bodes well for what kind of commitment he will expect form the players.
Unfortunately I don't think we can get away from the negatives going round at the moment on the player front in that his position is being undermined before he starts by not only losing Hoffman and the other players we know about but Joel as well and yet being lumbered with Harris as assistant and Thomas as a player (plus some young Crusader players). If the rumours are all true of course but there aren't any others!'"
id trust the judgement of IFL, madge and wane who all had a say in bringing harris to the club! it might also be worth noting that in their interviews harris blew sculthorpe apart with his knowledge of rugby league! id hardly say were being "lumbered" with him!
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| I'm sorry, but Harris has always struck me as little more than a mouthy gob-sh|te.
I detested him as a player, for his constant questioning/abuse of referees (even if he did get away with it, just because he used the word "sir" a lot).
Do you really want this man as the next-but-one head coach of Wigan?
He reminds me of nobody so much as Ian Millward.
You remember - The guy who constantly whines, waves his arms, gives the bird to Wigan fans, oh, yeah, and of course LOSES 145-0 in 2 consecutive matchs and takes us to the brink of relegation.
I have seen nothing from Harris to impress me and it would take a LOT to change that opinion.
If this happens, I hope to f**k that IL has seen some genuine spark of coaching talent, as we will be incredibly inexperienced in the coaching roles with SW and IH at the helm.
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| He's worked his way up through the coaching ranks. He clearly knows how to coach and how to get players to play for him, that's a very good start. On top of that? Well there's only one way to find out!
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| I think Wane will be a good coach, maybe a great one. He must've learnt a lot from Madge and he was probably doing most of it once it was announced Madge was leaving. But probably not in his first year - so no moaning if we don't do the double next year (or treble? if you count hubcap). As for Harris, he'll do a few years then leave to be head coach somewhere else. Maybe Deacs will then step into Assistant? Who knows.
Commitment and top 4 will do me next year.
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| What will Wane bring?
Success and glory, a new chapter in the history of the Wigan club.
He will then move to RU.
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| Wane will bring passion and pride to the club but passion and pride doesn't win you games, honestly was 2 years under madge enough to give Wane everything he needs to coach the Wigan team?
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| I'm delighted that Wane got the job...he is wigan through and through! Something that IL has really tried to return to the club. Nothing can replace the passion of a true wigan born and bred coach. He's had years of working with some great coaches and two years is a long time to work closely with Madge.
I think the negativity should stop....we should get behind the whole team and coaching team and just hope we don't lose Joel to union!!!!
Good luck for next season!!!!!
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| he will bring commitment and passion
he will bring an aggressive defense (see hull and leeds last year)
he will also bring with him a never say die attitude and the lads will leave the pitch knowing they gave their all for wigan.
I'm very happy with the appointments, some people are quick to judge before we've even started pre-season
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| lots of pies?
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| I expect him to continue the league's only 100% coaching record.
Having kept a clean sheet in 50% of his games in charge is also a proud record.
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| Quote ="wiganstripleL"i it might also be worth noting that in their interviews harris blew sculthorpe apart with his knowledge of rugby league! id hardly say were being "lumbered" with him!'"
Can you qualify that statement? I mean, were you actually there at the stage where Harris 'blew him away'? Otherwise it's a bit of a silly thing to come out with ain't it?
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| on his interview he said "win every match" when asked what he wants to achieve next season by one of the Sky reporters. That'll do for me
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| Quote ="fatbaztod100"on his interview he said "win every match" when asked what he wants to achieve next season by one of the Sky reporters. That'll do for me'"
Not for me. IMO it was this mentality that cost us a chance of the GF. I have previously stated that I felt winning the league was of huge importance but have now changed my mind. No-one except us lot seem to mind that Leeds have been crap from Feb to Sept so I'll be happy with 11 losses (some of them real pastings too), 5th on points difference then coming home with a wet sail in October. Of course, based on this now acceptable level of "success" I may choose not to renew my season ticket next year and pick and choose games instead.
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"I'm sorry, but Harris has always struck me as little more than a mouthy gob-sh|te.
I detested him as a player, for his constant questioning/abuse of referees (even if he did get away with it, just because he used the word "sir" a lot).
Do you really want this man as the next-but-one head coach of Wigan?
He reminds me of nobody so much as Ian Millward.
You remember - The guy who constantly whines, waves his arms, gives the bird to Wigan fans, oh, yeah, and of course LOSES 145-0 in 2 consecutive matchs and takes us to the brink of relegation.
I have seen nothing from Harris to impress me and it would take a LOT to change that opinion.
If this happens, I hope to f**k that IL has seen some genuine spark of coaching talent, as we will be incredibly inexperienced in the coaching roles with SW and IH at the helm.'"
Shouldn't we give the new set up a couple of pre season friendlies before we stick the knife in ???
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Not for me. IMO it was this mentality that cost us a chance of the GF. I have previously stated that I felt winning the league was of huge importance but have now changed my mind. No-one except us lot seem to mind that Leeds have been crap from Feb to Sept so I'll be happy with 11 losses (some of them real pastings too), 5th on points difference then coming home with a wet sail in October. Of course, based on this now acceptable level of "success" I may choose not to renew my season ticket next year and pick and choose games instead.'"
You have to go into every game with the intention of winning. But squad rotation is very important. Some SL games you know you can rest some players and still more than likely win the. Saints rested a few players the week before the 1st play off game and that gained them an upper hand i feel. Not resting before Wembley and against Crusaders cost us a GF apperance.
Finishing top is no longer a major advantage in the 8 team play off system.
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| Wane will bring pride in the shirt passion and a Mike Gregory type rip and tear attitude in the pack. He has a great knowlege of the young players and will have learned loads from Madge.All he needs now is the fans to get right behind the team and we will be up there at the end of the season.BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Shouldn't we give the new set up a couple of pre season friendlies before we stick the knife in ???'"
Spot on
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| Quote ="Allez"Can you qualify that statement? I mean, were you actually there at the stage where Harris 'blew him away'? Otherwise it's a bit of a silly thing to come out with ain't it?'"
obviously iv not anything better to do than come on here and make these statements up!
in all seriousness i wasnt there at the interview but i trust the person who told me this information.
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| The fact that (when interviewed) Harris got the job and Sculthorpe didn't then you do the math.
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| Quote ="MattyB"The fact that (when interviewed) Harris got the job and Sculthorpe didn't then you do the math.'"
Its MATHS not MATH or have we turned into yanks overnight, rant over
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| He will bring the skills and knowledge acquired under MM, combine them with the ethos of playing for the most famous club in the world, and continue the momentum that we have had over the past 2 years. There is no reason why we cannot continue winning things next year.
The King is dead. Long live the King.
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| From what I understand Wane did not pick Harris , he was picked for us by the RL who will be paying his wages as well as those of Thomas. Wigan have jumped at the chance to get a freebie as they will also jump at the chance to get money from union for Joel. I can assure you that the Harris bit is true.
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| Quote ="jaxx"I can assure you that the Harris bit is true.'"
What, that Wigan had no say in who they appointed as Assistant Coach?
I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.
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| Quote ="DaveO"...FWIW there was also a rumour on there that IL offered Wane less than Madge but Wane held out to get the same deal (more than one reliable poster on there mentioned that).'"
That probably devalues all the other rumours by those same posters. How anyone posting on a forum could possibly know about details like that is beyond me.
Anyone who was close enough to Shaun Wane to know details that personal would surely be loyal enough to him not to spout it on some public access message board. I may be wrong but it seems very unlikely to me.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"What, that Wigan had no say in who they appointed as Assistant Coach?
I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.'"
So would be signing a 37 year old ex-RU player with the RFL paying his wages.
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