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| Quote ="- Neil -"agreed. Once they were dumped by Wigan it was the wake up call these guys needed. Todays result is more to do with the coach Brown. He is fantastic.'"
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| The only one i'd have back in a shot would be Wild.
How good is Nathan Brown though!? What a guy.
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| Brown was my MOM today but the only players we should of kept is Briscoe, Wild and Gilmour but we have better back rowers coming through now so I am not fussed.
Although Phelps has been brilliant I would have Briscoe back anyday, there is nothing better than having a class player who wants to play for you club in one of your main positions.
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| The bottom line is they are going to Wembley and Wigan's sorry shower of no-hopers is not.
they are also above us in the League.
They have a coach with ideas; has anyone seen a move like the kick on the first tackle work for Wigan recently?
Huddersfield work for each other and have excellent support play.
I am totally disenchanted with the unprofessional layabouts currently disgracing the cherry and white.
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| Quote ="Madderzahatter"Can anyone remind me why we let this lot leave?'"
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| Would only have Wild back of that lot. Why are people acting like it's the end of the world because we lost in the semi final of the challenge cup against a class side? People might claim Warrington aren't a class side but IMO they've been a sleeping giant for a long time. Now they have a quality coach it's all falling into place for them, they'll be tough to beat for any team at the moment.
All that the semi's have taught/reminded us is:
a - Our pack isn't good enough, we need a new prop and to sort out Paleaaesina's defence, probably by turning some fat into muscle. I'd say we need to sort out Fielden's attack but I think he's beyond help. Drop him to the academy and see if he stands out there even.
b - Noble isn't that great a coach, whether better is available I don't know.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Would only have Wild back of that lot. Why are people acting like it's the end of the world because we lost in the semi final of the challenge cup against a class side? People might claim Warrington aren't a class side but IMO they've been a sleeping giant for a long time. Now they have a quality coach it's all falling into place for them, they'll be tough to beat for any team at the moment.
All that the semi's have taught/reminded us is:
a - Our pack isn't good enough, we need a new prop and to sort out Paleaaesina's defence, probably by turning some fat into muscle. I'd say we need to sort out Fielden's attack but I think he's beyond help. Drop him to the academy and see if he stands out there even.
b - Noble isn't that great a coach, whether better is available I don't know.'"
You would have Wild over Briscoe?
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Brown appears to be a superb coach, with modern day techniques and a great style of play to win games'"
A good post until your last statement about a 'great style of play'.
They are actually quite dull to watch....very structured, very disciplined, little flair....(saying that the first try of the second half was a fantastic pre-set move... ).
It is because of this dullness that they are acheving so much success...A similar thing appears to be happening with my side, Warrington....For years we had Paul Cullen attempting to turn us into the Kevin Keegan-era Newcastle Utd of Super League...A 'You score 40, we'll score 41' mentality...Eventually, this naiveity got found and Cullen got sent on his way to his rightful home (The National League).
Now we have finally found a coach who realises the importance of discipline and structure, and with it results have improved, even if entertainment is sometimes lacking on what we were used to.
Just remember back to your successful sides of the late 80's, early 90's and you will realise that, yes you did have some great individuals, but importantly they played to a well thought out plan from some great coches of that era.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Brown appears to be a superb coach, with modern day techniques and a great style of play to win games'"
A good post until your last statement about a 'great style of play'.
They are actually quite dull to watch....very structured, very disciplined, little flair....(saying that the first try of the second half was a fantastic pre-set move... ).
It is because of this dullness that they are acheving so much success...A similar thing appears to be happening with my side, Warrington....For years we had Paul Cullen attempting to turn us into the Kevin Keegan-era Newcastle Utd of Super League...A 'You score 40, we'll score 41' mentality...Eventually, this naiveity got found and Cullen got sent on his way to his rightful home (The National League).
Now we have finally found a coach who realises the importance of discipline and structure, and with it results have improved, even if entertainment is sometimes lacking on what we were used to.
Just remember back to your successful sides of the late 80's, early 90's and you will realise that, yes you did have some great individuals, but importantly they played to a well thought out plan from some great coches of that era.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"A good post until your last statement about a 'great style of play'.
They are actually quite dull to watch....very structured, very disciplined, little flair....(saying that the first try of the second half was a fantastic pre-set move...
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It is because of this dullness that they are acheving so much success...A similar thing appears to be happening with my side, Warrington....For years we had Paul Cullen attempting to turn us into the Kevin Keegan-era Newcastle Utd of Super League...A 'You score 40, we'll score 41' mentality...Eventually, this naiveity got found and Cullen got sent on his way to his rightful home (The National League).
Now we have finally found a coach who realises the importance of discipline and structure, and with it results have improved, even if entertainment is sometimes lacking on what we were used to.
Just remember back to your successful sides of the late 80's, early 90's and you will realise that, yes you did have some great individuals, but importantly they played to a well thought out plan from some great coches of that era.'"
I thought all of Hudds tries were great especially the first, it was perfection and the last one was a moment of brilliance from Hodgson and some poor defense from Graham.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"A good post until your last statement about a 'great style of play'.
They are actually quite dull to watch....very structured, very disciplined, little flair....(saying that the first try of the second half was a fantastic pre-set move...
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It is because of this dullness that they are acheving so much success...A similar thing appears to be happening with my side, Warrington....For years we had Paul Cullen attempting to turn us into the Kevin Keegan-era Newcastle Utd of Super League...A 'You score 40, we'll score 41' mentality...Eventually, this naiveity got found and Cullen got sent on his way to his rightful home (The National League).
Now we have finally found a coach who realises the importance of discipline and structure, and with it results have improved, even if entertainment is sometimes lacking on what we were used to.
Just remember back to your successful sides of the late 80's, early 90's and you will realise that, yes you did have some great individuals, but importantly they played to a well thought out plan from some great coches of that era.'"
Your right in saying it's not the greatest to watch in entertainment value, however I stand by my statement "it's a great style of play to win games" because it is, there in 3rd place and have recently been racking up some big scores, plus that style of play completely nullified saints. Yes it may not be highly riveting stuff to watch, but god it's effective.
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| Quote ="Drachen Feuer"
Robinson - Disciplinary reasons
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was used as a scapegoat for someone elses error.
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| Quote ="lukes_ladybird"was used as a scapegoat for someone elses error.'"
No he wasn't!
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| WIGAN WARRIORS SUPPORTERS GCSE Paper 1
Question 1. "Huddersfield prop Darrell Griffin is not good enough for Wigan and is the sort of player we don't need" Discuss with reference to this weekend's Challenge Cup semi-finals and the work of Stuart Fielden and Iaefta Paleaasina
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| Briscoe
Roberts Gleeson Carmont Richards
Tomkins Robinson
Coley Riddell Prescott
Wild Tomkins
Lockers
Looks a better starting 13 to me than our current.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've said it for so long, Kevin Brown should have been kept. He was hounded out of Wigan by "keyboard d*c*h*ads"
Had Brian Noble been at Wigan Brown would have been introduced slowly into the first team and would have been an ideal partner now for Sam.
Brown would walk away from Huddersfoeld now if he had the chance to come back to Wigan.'"
Hmm, good performance today but still not convinced by Brown. Still not even mentioned as a possibility for the English test side.
Having said that, felt very pleased today for all the ex Wigan boys and will be cheering them on in the final.
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| How surprising, I didn't see this thread coming
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| Sometimes young players need to be persevered with, too often they are cast aside before they mature as players resulting in clubs looking for the quick fix from overseas.
Lessons need to be learn't.
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| Quote ="Madderzahatter"Can anyone remind me why we let this lot leave?'"
We needed to pay for Vealiki...
That turned out well
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Had Brian Noble been at Wigan Brown would have been introduced slowly into the first team and would have been an ideal partner now for Sam.'"
But Noble doesnt know what he is doing with youngsters.
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| I think Robinson would be a better foil for Tomkins than either Leuluai or Brown.
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| how many years will it be before we are saying the same thing when we allow more players to go as people get on there backs as they dont think they are good enough or the changing of managers every couple of years,keep the faith with this team,just needs fine tuning.just let these young lads come through who care about wigan and stop bringing players in for big paydays who dont give a damm!
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