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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Quote ="J L Hooker"I've been told by a Saints steward that the 1st 10 rows of away supporters are going to get wet on a rainy day, also, drums are banned.
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And the back ten rows.'"
And the concourse...
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"You have proved my point the design and build procurement method shifts total responsibility to the main contractor Barr in this case for the construction and design of the stadium. I presume Barr use their own design team to produce and over see the design and therefore they are still required as acting architects to authorize the Practical Completion Certificate and hand possession of the stadium to Saints. If this incident happened prior to completion this certificate wouldn't have been granted. '"
Again not true. Barr would not self-certify completion. As I said it would be done by the Employer's Agent who are engaged by the Employer.
Without seeing the specific terms of their contract we do not know what Barr's design responsibility is. JCT standard form only requires the contractor to "complete" the design so if the roof was already designed it may not be their responsibility.
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"You have proved my point the design and build procurement method shifts total responsibility to the main contractor Barr in this case for the construction and design of the stadium. I presume Barr use their own design team to produce and over see the design and therefore they are still required as acting architects to authorize the Practical Completion Certificate and hand possession of the stadium to Saints. If this incident happened prior to completion this certificate wouldn't have been granted. '"
Again not true. Barr would not self-certify completion. As I said it would be done by the Employer's Agent who are engaged by the Employer.
Without seeing the specific terms of their contract we do not know what Barr's design responsibility is. JCT standard form only requires the contractor to "complete" the design so if the roof was already designed it may not be their responsibility.'"
In a design a build contract the Main Contractor (Barr) takes full responsibility for design and construction of the project either using their own design team or using a design consultancy to aid their work,the client may have provided a design brief with initial outline plan's along with preliminary costs and possible life cycle costing but Barr will be responsible for developing the design and construction it. So yes Barr have 100% responsibility in relation to the client for design hence tender cost's being greater than traditional procurement methods due to greater risk as a result of increased responsibility on contractors.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"You have proved my point the design and build procurement method shifts total responsibility to the main contractor Barr in this case for the construction and design of the stadium. I presume Barr use their own design team to produce and over see the design and therefore they are still required as acting architects to authorize the Practical Completion Certificate and hand possession of the stadium to Saints. If this incident happened prior to completion this certificate wouldn't have been granted. '"
Again not true. Barr would not self-certify completion. As I said it would be done by the Employer's Agent who are engaged by the Employer.
Without seeing the specific terms of their contract we do not know what Barr's design responsibility is. JCT standard form only requires the contractor to "complete" the design so if the roof was already designed it may not be their responsibility.'"
In a design a build contract the Main Contractor (Barr) takes full responsibility for design and construction of the project either using their own design team or using a design consultancy to aid their work,the client may have provided a design brief with initial outline plan's along with preliminary costs and possible life cycle costing but Barr will be responsible for developing the design and construction it. So yes Barr have 100% responsibility in relation to the client for design hence tender cost's being greater than traditional procurement methods due to greater risk as a result of increased responsibility on contractors.'"
Not quite. As a D&B contract (specific instance to the roofing), design liability will ultimately be passed onto the sub-contract installer. Invariably this will be shared with the manufacturer, who will provide the specification for the gauge of the cladding material, as well as the required fastenings and fixing centres. In tandem with this will be the design responsibility for the purlins (gauge and centres), this will lie with the structural steelwork contractor.
All of the above will be calculated/specified against the design criteria as provided by the Architect and Structural Engineer (purlins only).
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| Quote ="Odem"Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Quote ="J L Hooker"I've been told by a Saints steward that the 1st 10 rows of away supporters are going to get wet on a rainy day, also, drums are banned.
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And the back ten rows.'"
And the concourse...'"
And the bar...
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| Excellent work!
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| HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!.......
Headingley is old
Belle Vue is delapidated
Wheldon Road is a 'hole' (not my words)
you can say what you want about teams grounds but.......
Saints have their own ground......
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| Quote ="Royston-Vasey"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!.......
Headingley is old
Belle Vue is delapidated
Wheldon Road is a 'hole' (not my words)
you can say what you want about teams grounds but.......
Saints have their own ground......
.......do you?'"
YAWN!
Id rather share with a premiership football team than have a cheap plastic lego set that falls apart every winter. Never mind though "at least its your lego set"
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| Lego is bloody sturdy stuff, you never see our lego roof blow off
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| Wires ground made from Lego, Saints made from Duplo, whos next for an Ikea ground?
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| I feel I must apologise to Warrington fans. (Talk about a once in a lifetime event! )
In the past I have unfavourably compared Wire's basic but solidly built ground with Saints new stadium.
What an error.
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| Maybe someone should have a word with Stan Wall and check what products he used to secure his flowing locks and use it as a bonding agent for the structure.
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| Its really brightened up my off season this, fantastic stuff from Saints.
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| What will happen now if the stadium is deemed unsafe and needs work doing before matches can be played there? lets hope theres not to many widnes home fixtures clashing with saints home fixtures or they'll be in trouble
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| Their first four U20 games have already been scheduled away from the Screwfix Stadium.
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| I'm sure we can be friendly neighbours and offer them orrell for a few weeks?...
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| Given there are more storms and gales forecast for tonight there might not be much left of the stadium equivalent of a trailer park that is Langtree Park.
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| Even if the stadium was blown away and left with a crater it would be an improvement on Knowsley Road.
If Tesco had anything to do with the stadium you can be guaranteed it will fall apart inside a 2 years. Though nice to know that it had a retractable roof like Wembley, Millennium stadium and Wimbledon pity its going to take a huge crane and a jumbo size super glue tin to put back on.
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JOB WELL DONE LADS
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| Im sure Robin Park is available Friday nights?
Cant wait for the next series of "Cowboy builders"
"In tonights episode Eamon Mcmanus searches for the cowboys that built him a multi million pound stadium with a roof that blew off in the wind"
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