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| Deliberate and clever tactic from Wigan to avoid the poisoned chalice that is the League Leaders Shield.
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| Payment could have been one to Joel Tomkins when leaving the club.
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| Quote ="supercat"Payment could have been one to Joel Tomkins when leaving the club.'"
2017 season. Joel left in 2018
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| Can’t wait for the next fans forum.
“I’ve got one word for you Mr. Chairman.....Salary Cap”.
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| Would a 2 point deduction have effected us last season?
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| Maybe this is a bit more payback from the RFL.
It doesn't do to call a useless administration, useless. They might get offended.
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Damn, was hoping to stoke a conspiracy theory.
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Damn, was hoping to stoke a conspiracy theory.
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| Apparently very cold in Wigan this morning minus 2 ,I’m told.
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| Quote ="supercat"Payment could have been one to Joel Tomkins when leaving the club.'"
The statement clearly identifies the reasons for the "breach".
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I can find no fault with that statement from the club, or with their decision to appeal.
However, no doubt some will.
We now await contributions from the usual suspects.
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I can find no fault with that statement from the club, or with their decision to appeal.
However, no doubt some will.
We now await contributions from the usual suspects.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Apparently very cold in Wigan this morning minus 2 ,I’m told.'"
Touché. Things could always be much worse of course.....
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| Quote ="Cruncher"
We now await contributions from the usual suspects.'"
Just not the Saint's fans?
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| Quote ="ChrisA"I thought SC was all run live? Why has this live system taken 12 months?
I'm not complaining we've been fined, if we have we gone over then we get what we deserve. I just don't understand the delay?'"
Apparently the club's own fault. The discrepancy was discovered late 2018. Wigan originally disputed it. An independent tribunal was arranged. Wigan then admitted all but one payment should have been in the cap before the tribunal could meet.
Maybe if they had come clean initially they might have escaped the points deduction
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"You need to take a leaf out of Warrington's book!'"
What's a salary cap?
Regards
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| Quote ="goobervision"Just not the Saint's fans?'"
They'll only show up if they win on Thursday night.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Can’t wait for the next fans forum.
“I’ve got one word for you Mr. Chairman.....Salary Cap”.'"
you must be on the accounts department then .. one word .. errr
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| Seems like a very minor breach to me. A very small amount and not exactly done to deliberately circumvent the cap.
Not sure on Wigan’s argument that the penalty should be less just because they didn’t prosper from the breach. If you’re over the salary cap, you’re over the salary cap and the performance of the team doesn’t really matter.
I’m thinking that if this was a first time offence there wouldn’t have been a points deduction. But this is now the third time Wigan have gone over the cap.
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| notttinhamtiger is right a first time breach of this amount would have no doubt had a different outcome. You would believe after two serious breaches of the cap they would have system in place that kept up to date records down to the penny. It's no good the club hierarchy bellyaching about the outcome the poor accounting is down to them not the RFL.
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| We re-signed Burgess for 2017, that would make sense given that the breaches related to flights and an agents fee
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| No world cup match & 2 point deduction for slugging off a failing organisation.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"No world cup match & 2 point deduction for slugging off a failing organisation.'"
The two point deduction is for cheating. Breaking the salary cap is cheating. Spending more money than you're allowed to and more than anybody else does is the very definition of a material advantage. I have no idea how anyone can feel badly done to here.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade" I have no idea.'"
Back under your stone, there’s a good lad.
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| This is payback for IL leading the Superleague breakaway and is everything that's rotten at the core of the RFL. No other professional organisation would run it's own sport down like this. For what amounts to an administrative error they've effectively devalued the competition. Who suffers as usual? The fans. Not just of the Wigan club either. Can you imagine if a team won the competition by 1 or 2 points over Wigan? Their 'victory' would be forever tarnished. The RFL needs consigning to the dustbin of history. They're backward thinking and there's no place for that in today's competitive marketplace.
The Hearns were right. Our sport is killing itself.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"The two point deduction is for cheating. Breaking the salary cap is cheating. Spending more money than you're allowed to and more than anybody else does is the very definition of a material advantage. I have no idea how anyone can feel badly done to here.'"
No one is complaining about the judgement and by all means fine the club, but if you don't think a points deduction is both disproportionate and damaging to the game in general and the upcoming season in particular then you're part of the problem with our sport.
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