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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Just watching the game back and he also saves a try for Ollie Russell about 12 mins in, when he races him back in to the in goal and makes up ground on him to get the ball dead.'"
Just watched it back myself mate. He has masses of crucial involvements. Everyone is focusing on the French/Field try, and understandably so, but it's Smith who makes the pass that opens the opportunity up in the first place. A Great kick for the Marshall near try. The sweeper defending the kick through in the first half that saves a probable try. Just game changing involvement after involvement.
Apart from some defence and his try, McQueen doesn't actually do much. Nowhere near as influential as Smith. Not even close. I don't know where that decision has come from. They must have been watching a different match.
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| Quote ="jonh"Not smashed at all. Just saying as I saw it.
Happy to watch it back later when I get home.
I thought both teams were very poor on last tackle plays and both teams were rudderless around the halves for long periods of the game. That was down to the 9s too.
When Tommy came on we looked more controlled.
With 10 minutes to go we’re we’re playing like headless chickens flinging the ball about with no direction chasing the game rather than keeping calm and trying to build sets.
That was my take on it.
Fantastic that Smith came up with the big play when he did and your only need a few minutes of brilliance to turn a game which he produced but over the course of the 80 I don’t think he had one of his better games, non of the halves did.
Giants badly missed Fages as their last tackle plays and organisation were shocking and as others have identified probably cost them the game.
Great result for us and in my opinion I felt Smithies was our best on the day.
Not nice to see a player get injured but I think we would have been very happy to see the withdrawal of Chris Hill who had a brilliant first 20 mins.'"
Mate, you're so, so wrong on Smith. I think you'll be embarrassed when you watch it back.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Just watched it back myself mate. He has masses of crucial involvements. Everyone is focusing on the French/Field try, and understandably so, but it's Smith who makes the pass that opens the opportunity up in the first place. A Great kick for the Marshall near try. The sweeper defending the kick through in the first half that saves a probable try. Just game changing involvement after involvement.
Apart from some defence and his try, McQueen doesn't actually do much. Nowhere near as influential as Smith. Not even close. I don't know where that decision has come from. They must have been watching a different match.'"
They make the decision at around 75 minutes - make it at 80 and they probably pick Smith. McQueen was probably as good as anyone for Hudds. Ricky Leutele was a nightmare to deal with - would love him at Wigan.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"They make the decision at around 75 minutes - make it at 80 and they probably pick Smith. McQueen was probably as good as anyone for Hudds. Ricky Leutele was a nightmare to deal with - would love him at Wigan.'"
McQueen was as good as any for them but that's the point. I didn't think anyone stood out for Huddersfield. It was just a solid team effort. If you had to pick a best for Huddersfield it would have been Leutele as he was the one who actually caused problems.
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| Watched the game back and we're much, much better than what we've been given credit for.
Plenty of mistakes in the game, but we looked far more threatening in attack. Plenty of line breaks and adventurous with the ball. Faz makes a break, Tommy going close on a play, Field putting Smith through and of course the Field break.
Maybe it's just too hard for opposition fans to see, or say that though.
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| Quote ="thesaint62"Smithies your best ?Should have been sin binned at least once'"
How about Yates' swinging arm and direct contact to the head of Farrell? What about the professional foul at the end of the first half? Or was it only a Wigan player that should have been sin binned? Go figure...
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| Quote ="jools"Gutted for my team- they really didn’t deserve to be on the losing side today as I felt they were the better side overall. I hope the wigan lads felt just a tiny bit embarrassed when lifting that cup- But well done. Let’s hope we can get our revenge in the grand final!'"
Embarrassed? Yeah i bet they are beside themselves with grief today. They gifted your team numerous chances whilst you played virtually no error rugby and still LOST. You played well yes but your name isn't on the roll of honour for 2022. Liverpool played well last night too but guess what, they are also-rans too. Better luck next year.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Should’ve hung fire with the Lance Todd Trophy, Harry Smith take a bow'"
He was outstanding yesterday. I called him out as i had thought he had enough chances to have earned his spot and blown them. He has shoved my comments down my throat with aplomb. He has all of a sudden become a big game player and put Cust to shame yesterday. Cust had an off day but Smith carried him. Brilliant performance.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"He was outstanding yesterday. I called him out as i had thought he had enough chances to have earned his spot and blown them. He has shoved my comments down my throat with aplomb. He has all of a sudden become a big game player and put Cust to shame yesterday. Cust had an off day but Smith carried him. Brilliant performance.'"
Jiffy said at the end "Smith nailed on for the Lance Todd". Maybe it's time to leave the voting until the whole match has actually finished?
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| Quote ="thesaint62"Smithies your best ?Should have been sin binned at least once'"
He wasn't though was he. Offers so much more than your Welsh convert who you laud as some sort of Corey Parker. Keep a tight hold of that crown Mr Saint, it seems to be slipping. Im sure Dwyer for Roby next season will prop you back up though and the new contract for Matty (Tom Burgess) Lees who Redvee sem to think is one of the best props in the league. I don't see him make any metres and drops the ball a lot. Just a big lump. Big contract too apparently. Two words ......... Greg Richards
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| I've expressed plenty of doubt about Smith in the past, based on his ratio of successful plays to errors. All halves get it wrong sometimes, and nothing ventured, nothing gained. But the bad stuff needs to be few and far between. He's really come on this year under Peet, though. Like many, I'll reserve judgement until I've watched the game back on TV, but he was there for the big plays that mattered, and really won the game for us.
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| Quote ="moto748"I've expressed plenty of doubt about Smith in the past, based on his ratio of successful plays to errors. All halves get it wrong sometimes, and nothing ventured, nothing gained. But the bad stuff needs to be few and far between. He's really come on this year under Peet, though. Like many, I'll reserve judgement until I've watched the game back on TV, but he was there for the big plays that mattered, and really won the game for us.'"
Under Peet or under Briers?
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"How about Yates' swinging arm and direct contact to the head of Farrell? What about the professional foul at the end of the first half? Or was it only a Wigan player that should have been sin binned? Go figure...'"
Your lot are the masters at the professional foul.
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| Quote ="thesaint62"Your lot are the masters at the professional foul.'"
Another to add to the list of things we are masters at. Like winning the cup.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Well I backed Smith for Lance Todd so I agree it should have been picked at the end
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So did I at 20/1 for a tenner - thought he deserved it.
Had Leutele for first try at 18/1 so had a good day.
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| Quote ="thesaint62"Your lot are the masters at the professional foul.'"
The masters of unrivalled greatness, safe in the knowledge that our noisy geographical neighbours will always be in our shadow and when the people outside of the M62 corridor are asked about rugby league, they speak of Wigan not St Helens. The side too scared to play Penrith that became Australia's laughing stock.
As Eggy said
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| Quote ="thesaint62"Your lot are the masters at the professional foul.'"
you are sounding like a bitter Stain,
Farrell had to cop a high shot or hadnt you seen that with your Stain glasses on.
All that matters is the best team won,you know the one with the most points !!!
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| Quote ="P-J"Under Peet or under Briers?'"
Considering that Briers is under Peet, and that Smith is under ALL of the coaching staff, it's both.
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| Quote ="Jason65"you are sounding like a bitter Stain,
Farrell had to cop a high shot or hadnt you seen that with your Stain glasses on.
All that matters is the best team won,you know the one with the most points !!!'"
That’s all he is. For balance, I thought it was a yellow (only one of them though), on the referee if they want to play that game
I also thought the holding down on French just before half time was a yellow
McQueen’s try had 2 obstructions in it, both lead runners ran straight into defenders, pretty much the same as the one that was given against us in the first set.
I’d question why the game was stopped for Hill’s leg injury but not for Thornley’s.
The bottom line, for all the talk of them being the better side for large parts of the game, they weren’t good enough to register more points than us. That’s the only stat that matters.
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| Quote ="Jason65"you are sounding like a bitter Stain,
Farrell had to cop a high shot or hadnt you seen that with your Stain glasses on.
All that matters is the best team won,you know the one with the most points !!!'"
Far from bitter pal
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"The masters of unrivalled greatness, safe in the knowledge that our noisy geographical neighbours will always be in our shadow and when the people outside of the M62 corridor are asked about rugby league, they speak of Wigan not St Helens. The side too scared to play Penrith that became Australia's laughing stock.
As Eggy said
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To scared to play Penrith? Ha ha
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| Quote ="thesaint62"Far from bitter pal'"
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"So do I at 20/1 for a tenner - thought he deserved it.
Had Leutele for first try at 18/1 so had a good day.
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I had originally intended backing Leutele for the first try but instead doubled up my bet on Smith for MOM.
At the end of the game I was made up. A great win and I thought a great day out for free at the expense of Mr Patrick Power. It's the first time in life that I didn't win a penny but didn't give a shiny shoite.
I thought that Smith was absolutely the MOM on the day and after watching the game again this morning I'm even more convinced that he won it in canter.
I was worried about a disappointing start to the game and some unenforced errors by us just opened the door to Huddersfield.
Very pleased on how we hung in yesterday even when we were not playing particularly well.
We are nowhere near the finished article but we are laying some great foundations for hopefully,a great future.
Yesterday we scored 3 cracking tries against a well disciplined and organised defence and we can play much better than we did. I don't think we can ask for much more than that in a final.
The 2 highlights of the day for me were firstly my grandsons face at the end of game which was worth more than a million to me, Secondly, the sight of IL raising the CC. I think it was Farrell and Bateman(?) who cajoled IL into raising the trophy. IL has had some criticisms over the years with some of it totally and utterly unwarranted particularly in terms of his financial support. I have criticised him at times but I have never doubted his love of the club. I tip my cap to the players who ensured that IL quite rightly, enjoyed some of the post match celebrations.
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| Quote ="moto748"Does every thread have to degenerate into this?'"
No.
We scored 3 tries of absolute top quality.
All of those tries had to be worked for and all of them had first class skills and delivered at a fantastic pace.
Ive been lucky enough to see us score some great CCF tries over the years and yesterday's 3 are in my top 10 of all time.
Smithies offload was brilliant and the lad is improving leaps and bounds.
Fields try was a classic. Brilliant passing finished with astonishing pace from French & Field.
Marshall is the most underrated winger in the competition and I love the fact that he was our match winner in the SF & Final.
Smith played almost single handedly in the halves, knocked on early in the game in his own 20 and didn't get his usual support from the second row but still managed to score a blinder and set up a brilliant winner. The lad is still really just a kid but has the capacity to mature into a top class HB for club and country.
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