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| He may not have had much/any control, but ( as previously stated) he had more control than Meli did! Do you agree that Meli was very, very fortunate to be awarded a try?
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| It was irrelevant as Piggy scored straight afterwards. If the Richards "try" had been given, Piggy wouldn't have scored his.
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| dont know about meli's but if it was anything like richards its a no try. end of.
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| I haven't watched it back yet, but, Richards never had control of the ball and his left hand was in touch
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| Quote ="klunk"Hahahahha
beaten by the better team
move on
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| Quote ="Les Boyd"I haven't watched it back yet, but, Richards never had control of the ball and his left hand was in touch'"
Agreed it wasn't a try, I think the consternation comes from the fact it was very very similar to Meli's against us that was given - both non tries imo.
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| Why was Carmont's try disallowed?
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Why was Carmont's try disallowed?'"
His foot hit the touchline. Was the right call by the linesman.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"His foot hit the touchline. Was the right call by the linesman.'"
Didn't look like it from where I was sat but I also couldn't see the screen for the replay.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Didn't look like it from where I was sat but I also couldn't see the screen for the replay.'"
It's pretty clear when you get to see the replay.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"I don't mind as long as it is consistant. Consistancy in reffing cost us in many areas tonight. I'm not saying it cost us the game but it certainly was not fully in our favour.'"
It's not supposed to be in your favour. What cost you the game is the fact that you didn't take advantage of all the possession we gave you in the first 20 minutes.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire" What cost you the game is the fact that you didn't take advantage of all the possession we gave you in the first 20 minutes.'"
Exactly!
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| Well i had no problem with that decision either at the game or when i watched it again at home not enough control i thought Childs had a good one as VR
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Well i had no problem with that decision either at the game or when i watched it again at home not enough control i thought Childs had a good one as VR'"
I don't know how he missed the Mathers knock-on.
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| I dont know how the ref missed it or Morleys knock ok
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| Where the bloody'ell have all these Warrington fans come from?
Talk about only sing when your winning :S
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| Quote ="apollosghost"It was irrelevant as Piggy scored straight afterwards. If the Richards "try" had been given, Piggy wouldn't have scored his.'"
That is good point and should really put this thread to bed
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| only sing when were winning? only time i heard anything from wigan fans was when you scored (the place did roar when you did thou)
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| Quote ="St pete"I watched it in pub and couldn't hear what sky was saying, not sure what they thought on tv but I thought it was never a try.
He didn't look like he had any control at all.'"
Did you think Meli's was a try?
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Just watched it again, he has more control than Meli had in the saints game.'"
Agreed, but was it not ruled out because his left arm was on the whitewash when he did 'ground the ball'?
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| Major 50-50 vid ref decisions this season.
[uIn our favour[/u
Roberts at Wire when Gleeson could have been obstructing - Wigan try
[uNot in our favour[/u
Smith knock on from bomb in CC when Tomkins collected loose ball and was held up. Vid ref said this was a Leeds ball. Should have been another set on the Leeds line - awful, awful decision.
Roby held up at home to Saints, no angle shows the ball even going close to the ground, but try given to Saints. Shocking
Meli scraping the ball to ground it at home to Saints, 50-50 but try given to Saints.
Richards doing almost exactly the same as Meli, but has more control, again 50-50 but try not given.
Are their anymore - anymore in favour of Wigan to prove that it evens out over the season?
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| The rules state that downward pressure is needed. The try scorer doesn't actually need control which is just as well for Meli because he sure didn't have any control. I didn't think Meli or Richards had downward pressure so both should have been no try IMO. Richards hand was possibly in touch as well. It was good defending to stop the try which Richards would normally have scored against most teams and so I suppose the defending team deserved some reward.
Stevo confuses people because he seemingly doesn't know or remember the rules.
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| I dont think it was a try at all as he never had any control at all and have no complaints about the decision.
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| I personally thought his left hand had hit the whitewash when he ' grounded ' it .
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| Quote ="Dougy"Major 50-50 vid ref decisions this season.
[uIn our favour[/u
Roberts at Wire when Gleeson could have been obstructing - Wigan try
[uNot in our favour[/u
Smith knock on from bomb in CC when Tomkins collected loose ball and was held up. Vid ref said this was a Leeds ball. Should have been another set on the Leeds line - awful, awful decision.
Roby held up at home to Saints, no angle shows the ball even going close to the ground, but try given to Saints. Shocking
Meli scraping the ball to ground it at home to Saints, 50-50 but try given to Saints.
Richards doing almost exactly the same as Meli, but has more control, again 50-50 but try not given.
Are their anymore - anymore in favour of Wigan to prove that it evens out over the season?'"
I agree totally, Dougy. Also the Mathers knock on after Joel kicked through. How did Child (VR) not spot that? Wire fans have claimed that advantage was played, but no advantage accrued, so it would be back to 1st offence ( ie Mathers' knock on). In fact, I'm not sure that Faz even knocked on - the ball hit his leg/midriff before Riley kicked it away.
I'm also surprised Silverwood didn't go to the video ref when Myler scored - he got to the ball very quickly. Sky never showed the overhead shot in their replay of the try to indicate whether it was onside/offside. Contrast when Silverwood blew for offside against Sam when Leuluai kicked in the air and Richards "scored" - immediate blowing up without going to the VR. Sky didn't really dwell on any replay.
One cannot deny that in all 3 crucial games there have been numerous bad calls that have seemingly all gone against Wigan ( sinbinning of Faz against Leeds, but no action taken against Peacock and Senior), awarding of doubtful tries to Saints and now a catalogue of errors/failure to punish high shots and police offside against Warrington.
They say these bad decisions/injusices even themselves out in the course of a season - let's hope so, because Wigan are due a few in their favour!
This may be seen as "sour grapes" - Wigan lost for numerous reasons, they dropped the ball too much etc. However, if the above incorrect decisions had not been made, Wigan might have had 3 close wins not 3 close defeats!
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