What about all the positives he added to the game? Especially in creativity in attack? The very thing which our team lacks.

Orford would easily be first pick

Finch / Kimmorley would still be better than currently, where we don't really have a 7.

Myler!! Orford is too old, Finch isn't good enough and Kimmorley would need a big pay off to come to SL! not worth it at his age...

Whats all this about needing a number 7???
Isnt Tommy a number 7? I know Ive been on holiday, but did we sell him?
We already have 2 hookers so I think Tommy is best utilised at 7 and he is young enough to provide a long term partnership with Sam for many years
2 more props please IL as a priority (LMS and an Aussie) and let the backs play, and show what they can do behind a winning and not dominated pack

Is going to Warrington.

Nope

Never ever ever.

How do you know this? Seriously, so far is all just talk.

I was told?

By? come on you can do it!

Why? What does it matter, its a rumour like any other, I believe the person who told me, but what is the point in getting into a keyboard warrior argument about who knows what.

IMO Myler will be a Warrington player next seaon.

Why dont you offer a destination for him? I can only assume you think Hull as S Long will be there also.

Ooohhh someone doesn't like being asked where they are getting their info from!

Hardly a keyboard warrior, I was simply wondering where you got your info from. Not exactly a argumentative comment.

If you would have said IMO I wouldn't have asked.

P.S The Long comment was very lame, and childish.

He was playing behind a dominant pack.
What did you think of his performances against Wigan?

Missing 30% of attempted tackles is not good enough.

NSW Origin team for game two:

Kurt Gidley, Jarryd Hayne, Michael Jennings, Jamie Lyon, David Williams, Trent Barrett, Peter Wallace, Brent Kite, Robbie Farah, Michael Weyman, Ben Creagh, Luke O’Donnell, Paul Gallen

Interchange: Craig Wing, Justin Poore, Glenn Stewart, Anthony Watmough

Shadow players: Tom Learoyd-Lars, Joel Monaghan, Josh Morris




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When he played against Wigan for Salford his pack weren't dominant like when he played for England, and personally though he did OK against us, and true 30% missed tackles isn't good enough but the guys still young and still learning and he must be doing something right after all he is England's current number 7.
A good comparison for me would be Tim Smith and Myler, both not good in defence yet Myler when I've seen him is far more consistent and doesn't get lost in games unlike a certain Tim Smith, plus the guy seems very mature for his age when playing or being interviewed.

Yes it would be a risk to sign Myler and partner him with Tomkins in fact in an ideal world it would be nice to sign Orford as well, to guide the two youngsters through games for the first two years but sadly that wont happen, we'll find out soon enough Im sure what Lenegan and the new coach have in plan.

In a mid season friendly perhaps.

Rob Burrow is Englands current No7

Have you seen him play this year?
He's dragging the Sharks up almost single handedly... ahh the memories!

Not at this rate, Burrow was poor in the world cup(yes I know everyone else was) and the guys been struck down by a lot of bad injuries, for me stemming from that shoulder charge he received from Watmough in the WCC. Since then when he has come back from injury he's been no where near the form he was for Leeds last year.
If Burrow doesn't recover from injury and a big loss of form then Myler will ware 7 in the four nations, not ideal at all but who else do we have.

freddie???

if only barrett carrot was still at wigan

Don't throw Fredie nuts!

I would not turn away from the hottest emerging UK talent over the fact he missed tackles in one game. Halves aren't primarily signed or developed on the strength of their tackling.

I'd like to see Lockyers tackle stats this week and he's one of the worlds best halves.

Myler was in a poor team against Wigan, again his two performances against Wigan wouldn't deter me, I've also seen him carry a Salford team and put in some outstanding performances.

Don’t jump the gun about the 6/7 we need being signed.

Our front line of the pack, needs to be dealt with first and that is our main priority

The back line of the pack, are superb in places.
No-one gets close to G. Hock’s standard of game, throughout the league in that position.
I believe S. O’Loughlin needs to be moved to Second Row on the right hand side, very good defence, but very good attack, something that’s currently lacking within the area.
Loose Forward is an area the young J. Tomkins could become a natural too, given the match time to develop to that position he could be superb.
L. Mossop is one of the biggest talents currently up and coming, without doubt next year, he’ll be bench.
H. Hansen is a player I do not rate, simply not good enough for us, with the talent around him, very good defence I’ll admit, but go forward poor at best.
M. Riddell in the middle of all of these, will become a better player, the guy is quality, people are just to quick to jump on his back. M. McIlorum is doing very well in such a key position the guy as some much pressure on his shoulders and to deal with that I respect the young lad greatly.

The props are the area, we need to develop soon, simply all our props are not good enough.
I wouldn’t keep a single one of them if possible.
A. Coley is playing very well at the minute, but I think he’ll leave come the end of the season, shame but are his performances just to earn that deal? Will they continue, only club staff will answer that.
S. Fielden hasn’t had a poor season, people are to quick to jump in his back due to his wage bill, if you look at his stats, the effort and knowledge behind the scenes he puts in, he’s nearly worth it.
Feka an opinion of mine is he needs to lose a slight bit of weight and the staff and players around him need to control him, telling him to run from deep. All O’Loughlin as to do is whisper in is ear, stood by his side usually.
The younger props, P. Prescott, simply needs to be loaned out, prove he can play a whole season and challenged other props. Not playing in front of fans with such big expectations would help him I feel.
E. O’Carroll quite a shame this season, playing very well and now he needs yet another op on his foot.

To fill the front line with what we need, we should be looking at players like L. Burgess, N. Cayless. The Griffin signing will help us till the end of the season I believe, he’ll give us much more in go-forward, something completely missing this year.

The back line I have no problems with, the odd tweak yes, nothing major.

A. Roberts, P. Richards or C. Phelps at fullback are good enough, with them they we can win games, but to add a lot more to our attack, we need a good game reading FB (Clint Greenshields) is a FB I hold a very high opinion of, reads the game very well, popping up in the right plays all the time, ball on the full 85% of the time, making very good yards carrying the ball back to the line.

Wingers, A. Roberts is our right winger for years to come, he’s becoming more and more confident with every game, yes he's made errors, he make's up for in try saving tackles/cutting the overlap out. P. Richards should be the left winger full time, he could have a complete field game every game, taking the ball outer the air in the corner, out jumping any winger, do we use this move much these days?
S. Ainscough, talented young lad, ready for SL, we could argue all day and night, saying yes and no, needs a few more months in the reserves to develop certain aspects of his game.

M. Gleeson is fairly quiet at the minute, could be due to him and A. Roberts developing a bond, but the main reason I believe is having a very poor second rower at his side. S. O’Loughlin at the side of him, would increase both the attacking side and defensive side of that wing. G. Carmont, one season the guy’s under-rated the next completely over-rated, the season will show if he’s become an injury prone player, which will show if he gets the contract extension or not.

Now the half’s - Seems to be the biggest talking point on this topic.

S. Tomkins is a 6 for the next few seasons, developing into a 7, 3to4 seasons down the line. Does his partnership with T. Leuluai work, simple answer no. We do need a new experienced 7, the rotation I’d play would be from the start.

6 - New Signing
7 - T. Leuluai
9 - Riddell

20 minutes into the game

6 - S. Tomkins
7 - New Signing
9 - T. Leuluai

T. Leuluai is one of the fittest players within our side, the lad could play an 80mintue game, every game of the season. M. McIlorum could do with the same as Prescott, a year to develop with huge expectations off they shoulders.

Who should the new signing be?

S. Myler - I’d love it, but the risk of playing two such young half’s is suicide in this current style of rugby. Could two young half’s play well under such huge expectations, with one bad game meaning you have the fans pulling your hair. The guy has been linked with Warrington as far as I know, just talk, as it is with us. I believe the guy will see his contract out with Salford, very respectful player. The 7 we’ll sign will be over the age of 28.

Number One priority to us, would be D. Lockyer, yes he’s a 6, the guy could play 6,7 and have a half decent shot of playing well at 1 still with the knowledge the guy has of the game.
M. Orford comes in at a close 2nd, proven winner, great attitude to the sport, great kicking and passing game, proven the ability of playing under pressure.
B. Kimmorley is a no, no at his age and current standard.
B. Finch is an interesting one, a player who walks from a club, do we want that sort of player? Will he leave Storms if they don’t sign anyone might sign another deal. He is a very good player, NSW quality.

On another note B. Noble, will remain at the club, once the inconsistency has been removed, the team will move on leaps and bounds, until then the club needs the support of us no matter what. People will always wine about an underperforming team and an underperforming player. Players seeing there names bad named on such places as here can’t help, in this current situation can it? We need to change our ways as much as they do. The atmosphere within the JJB as become poor over the past few seasons, it needs to change. Turn our ground into a place were teams are scared of coming.