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| This is absoulutely hilarious!!!!
Obviously made from the finest materials man can find.
Rubbish!!!!
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| langtree park is falling down, falling down, falling down. Langtree park is falling down ............. HaHa
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| Its all part of the plan, they are experimenting a roof like Cardiff that opens and closes Either that or they have gone for the "open plan" look.
Never fail to let us down do they. Tin pot.
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| Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"
Without a doubt the structure should have more than adequate lateral stability to resist horizontal wind loads and so the cladding should be designed and manufactured to transfer wind loads exerted on them. '"
Thats exactly what I thought
Tin pot sh.ithouses
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| Quote ="21-12"Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?'"
Building Control asses sporting grounds through out construction to ensure plans/regulations are being adhered to and then on completion to inspect the final structure. At present the Langtree stadium would fail on Structures and Components!
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| At least the Saint Helens undesirables don't have to climb on to the roof to nick metal to weigh in, they just have to wait at the bottom, hand delivered.
Is this 'giving back to the community' ?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"At least the Saint Helens undesirables don't have to climb on to the roof to nick metal to weigh in, they just have to wait at the bottom, hand delivered.
Is this 'giving back to the community' ?'"
careful, make a post about the roof being nicked and it will get deleted
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| Built on the cheap. Very poor from saints, lets hope the fans inside will be safe when a game is eventually played there.
This hasn't happened at any other new grounds. Clearly something has gone wrong with the materials, the builders or the design.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="21-12"Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?'"
Building Control asses sporting grounds through out construction to ensure plans/regulations are being adhered to and then on completion to inspect the final structure. At present the Langtree stadium would fail on Structures and Components!'"
But it will already have building control sign-off so not an issue here.
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="21-12"Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?'"
Building Control asses sporting grounds through out construction to ensure plans/regulations are being adhered to and then on completion to inspect the final structure. At present the Langtree stadium would fail on Structures and Components!'"
But it will already have building control sign-off so not an issue here.'"
Your wrong, building control inspect a project at a series of stages during construction noticeable completion. A building must be inspected and signed offed prior to occupation and use, area's in which a sport's ground are asses on are:
Safe Capacity
Safety Management
Stewarding
Structures and Components Langtree would currently fail here.
Circulation General
Exit routes unobstructed
Controlled Ingress
Stairs / Ramps
Concourses & Vomitories
Emergency Procedures
Barriers
Seating Accommodation
Standing Accommodation
Disabled Facilities / Areas
Fire Safety
Communications
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Media Provision
Tidiness
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="21-12"Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?'"
Building Control asses sporting grounds through out construction to ensure plans/regulations are being adhered to and then on completion to inspect the final structure. At present the Langtree stadium would fail on Structures and Components!'"
Oh god, if they have to play another year at Widnes it will be the funniest thing since Barry Ward.
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| Quote ="Odem"Built on the cheap. Very poor from saints,.'"
You can say that again.
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| Quote ="Odem"Built on the cheap. Very poor from saints, lets hope the fans inside will be safe when a game is eventually played there.
This hasn't happened at any other new grounds. Clearly something has gone wrong with the materials, the builders or the design.'"
I've also heard that they were using HSS hire equipment too...
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="21-12"Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?'"
Building Control asses sporting grounds through out construction to ensure plans/regulations are being adhered to and then on completion to inspect the final structure. At present the Langtree stadium would fail on Structures and Components!'"
But it will already have building control sign-off so not an issue here.'"
It is worth noting as well an architect is required to sign off a building on completion to pass on their consent the building can be used in it's current condition, huge liability is put onto the architects.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Your wrong, building control inspect a project at a series of stages during construction noticeable completion. A building must be inspected and signed offed prior to occupation and use, area's in which a sport's ground are asses on are:'"
"Construction" of this project has finished. Building Control sign-off will have been part of the completion conditions for Barr Construction.
Saints had the open training session the other week to satisfy safety certificates requirements which is a different approval to Building Control.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"It is worth noting as well an architect is required to sign off a building on completion to pass on their consent the building can be used in it's current condition, huge liability is put onto the architects.'"
Absolute rubbish.
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| Great quote from SaintsFan of their board.
After someone said the stadium should be able to cope with worse weather, it was only a tad windy, SaintsFan said....
'A tad windy? Where were you between 7.30am and 8.00am this morning? It was a fookin hurricane in St Helens with monsoon rain!'
In some crazy attempt to justify the damage. Why was tesco (also a brand new structure) totally fine? How about the rest of the buildings in St Helens?
Hahahahahaha. She is one of a kind that SaintsFan, try and justify anything which supports FIOS.
Imagine what other fans would come out with if Robin Park suffered storm damage? Hahaha.
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"Your wrong, building control inspect a project at a series of stages during construction noticeable completion. A building must be inspected and signed offed prior to occupation and use, area's in which a sport's ground are asses on are:'"
"Construction" of this project has finished. Building Control sign-off will have been part of the completion conditions for Barr Construction.
Saints had the open training session the other week to satisfy safety certificates requirements which is a different approval to Building Control.'"
I wasn't aware all construction phases where complete but Building Control will still enforce Fire Safety and Safety of Places of Sport Act 1987 post construction, Building Control would be made aware of this issue and Saint's must rectify this to provide satisfaction to Building Control.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"Your wrong, building control inspect a project at a series of stages during construction noticeable completion. A building must be inspected and signed offed prior to occupation and use, area's in which a sport's ground are asses on are:'"
"Construction" of this project has finished. Building Control sign-off will have been part of the completion conditions for Barr Construction.
Saints had the open training session the other week to satisfy safety certificates requirements which is a different approval to Building Control.'"
I wasn't aware all construction phases where complete but Building Control will still enforce Fire Safety and Safety of Places of Sport Act 1987 post construction, Building Control would be made aware of this issue and Saint's must rectify this to provide satisfaction to Building Control.'"
Building regs, heath and safety regs what ever, one thing is for sure. The old song will still be doing the rounds next year although with new lyrics. Langtree Park is falling down, falling down, build it up with pie and peas pie and peas
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"It is worth noting as well an architect is required to sign off a building on completion to pass on their consent the building can be used in it's current condition, huge liability is put onto the architects.'"
Absolute rubbish.'"
Care to explain what practical completion is? I'll save you the trouble, Practical Completion Certificate transfers possession of the building to the
client, and the Making Good Defects Certificate trigger the release of the retention.
In standard contractual form, ‘When in the opinion of the Architect Practical Completion of the Works is achieved, he shall forthwith issue a Certificate to that effect and Practical Completion of the Works shall be deemed for the purposes of the Contract to have taken place on the day named in such Certificate’.
The stadium would require this certificate granted by the Architects involved for Saints to gain possession of the stadium.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"It is worth noting as well an architect is required to sign off a building on completion to pass on their consent the building can be used in it's current condition, huge liability is put onto the architects.'"
Absolute rubbish.'"
Care to explain what practical completion is? I'll save you the trouble, Practical Completion Certificate transfers possession of the building to the
client, and the Making Good Defects Certificate trigger the release of the retention.
In standard contractual form, ‘When in the opinion of the Architect Practical Completion of the Works is achieved, he shall forthwith issue a Certificate to that effect and Practical Completion of the Works shall be deemed for the purposes of the Contract to have taken place on the day named in such Certificate’.
The stadium would require this certificate granted by the Architects involved for Saints to gain possession of the stadium.'"
Actually the contract for Langtree Park was a design and build contract and therefore responsibility for assessing completion would fall to the Employer's Agent as the Architect (if one was employed) would be employed by the Contractor eg Barr. HTH.
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| I've been told by a Saints steward that the 1st 10 rows of away supporters are going to get wet on a rainy day, also, drums are banned.
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"It is worth noting as well an architect is required to sign off a building on completion to pass on their consent the building can be used in it's current condition, huge liability is put onto the architects.'"
Absolute rubbish.'"
Care to explain what practical completion is? I'll save you the trouble, Practical Completion Certificate transfers possession of the building to the
client, and the Making Good Defects Certificate trigger the release of the retention.
In standard contractual form, ‘When in the opinion of the Architect Practical Completion of the Works is achieved, he shall forthwith issue a Certificate to that effect and Practical Completion of the Works shall be deemed for the purposes of the Contract to have taken place on the day named in such Certificate’.
The stadium would require this certificate granted by the Architects involved for Saints to gain possession of the stadium.'"
Actually the contract for Langtree Park was a design and build contract and therefore responsibility for assessing completion would fall to the Employer's Agent as the Architect (if one was employed) would be employed by the Contractor eg Barr. HTH.'" You have proved my point the design and build procurement method shifts total responsibility to the main contractor Barr in this case for the construction and design of the stadium. I presume Barr use their own design team to produce and over see the design and therefore they are still required as acting architects to authorize the Practical Completion Certificate and hand possession of the stadium to Saints. If this incident happened prior to completion this certificate wouldn't have been granted. And I was correct with Building Control enforcing Fire Safety and Safety of Places of Sport Act 1987 which would see the stadium unfit for use until the roof issue is rectified. You can take back your "absolute rubbish" comment now.
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| Quote ="J L Hooker"I've been told by a Saints steward that the 1st 10 rows of away supporters are going to get wet on a rainy day, also, drums are banned.
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And the back ten rows. Although that should be fixed if they ever get the cladding fitted.
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