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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Give over. It’s a widespread social activity that is in the most part totally harmless. Murder isn’t.'"
You're right it's totally harmless. It's produced and shipped by the entirely willing who are paid handsomely so some 20 something from Wigan can't snort it up his nose.
How can you be so blissfully unaware or willfully ignorant of what these drug gangs do to the people in the area to ensure constant supply? I'll give you a hint: murder, rape, kidnap, extortion. Brutal acts of violence.
I remember hearing a story where part of this one gang blocked the highway and waited for a bus to come along which was packed. They had it drive off the road into the middle of nowhere. They killed the women, children and elderly and had the men fight to the death - if they didn't they would find their families. The winner had the "honour" of working for them to traffic drugs across the border. If he refused, they would find his family.
Totally harmless indeed. And that's assuming that the person taking it is okay on it.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Make it legal then (cocaine) together with heroin and sell them in pubs and clubs. Once it's settled in there then let's start selling them in schools.
Oh and bullocks to the poor saps in Columbia who should be grateful that the west needs these harmless drugs because the no marks who use them don't give a flying shoite about anything other than themselves.'"
Wtf are you on about? No one sells alcohol or tobacco in schools ffs. Legalise it and “the poor saps” in Columbia would be on the same footing as a tobacco farmer. And nobody except you mentioned heroin, the use of which can in no way be described as a social activity. If you know nothing about the subject perhaps it would be better if you kept quiet.
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| Quote ="secondstanza"You're right it's totally harmless. It's produced and shipped by the entirely willing who are paid handsomely so some 20 something from Wigan can't snort it up his nose.
How can you be so blissfully unaware or willfully ignorant of what these drug gangs do to the people in the area to ensure constant supply? I'll give you a hint: murder, rape, kidnap, extortion. Brutal acts of violence.
I remember hearing a story where part of this one gang blocked the highway and waited for a bus to come along which was packed. They had it drive off the road into the middle of nowhere. They killed the women, children and elderly and had the men fight to the death - if they didn't they would find their families. The winner had the "honour" of working for them to traffic drugs across the border. If he refused, they would find his family.
Totally harmless indeed. And that's assuming that the person taking it is okay on it.'"
.... and what happens to those drugs gangs when it's legalised and taxed? They take a serious hit. I'm not saying it's harmless at all, but I'd rather the money go to the NHS, police, schools etc than to gangs. You could also standardise production, so that people at least know exactly what they are taking.
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| Quote ="secondstanza"You're right it's totally harmless. It's produced and shipped by the entirely willing who are paid handsomely so some 20 something from Wigan can't snort it up his nose.
How can you be so blissfully unaware or willfully ignorant of what these drug gangs do to the people in the area to ensure constant supply? I'll give you a hint: murder, rape, kidnap, extortion. Brutal acts of violence.
I remember hearing a story where part of this one gang blocked the highway and waited for a bus to come along which was packed. They had it drive off the road into the middle of nowhere. They killed the women, children and elderly and had the men fight to the death - if they didn't they would find their families. The winner had the "honour" of working for them to traffic drugs across the border. If he refused, they would find his family.
Totally harmless indeed. And that's assuming that the person taking it is okay on it.'"
All of the above (if true) is purely down to the fact that cocaine production and supply is illegal. Let me ask you a question. If someone invented alcohol today do you think it would be acceptable as a legal product?
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Wtf are you on about? No one sells alcohol or tobacco in schools ffs. Legalise it and “the poor saps” in Columbia would be on the same footing as a tobacco farmer. And nobody except you mentioned heroin, the use of which can in no way be described as a social activity. If you know nothing about the subject perhaps it would be better if you kept quiet.'"
Why stop at cocaine?
You said it was harmless so why not sell it at schools then?
If you are the sole owner of knwoledge on this subject then the 2 questions should be easy to answer.
By the way if I want to pass comment on total shoite then I will even if you think you are a progressive on a subject that has wider implications than some soft lad having a good time snorting shoite whilst everyone around then and countries of supply are in total turmoil.
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| Quote ="Azul"Totally harmless? Really? Honestly? Jesus...'"
I imagine from that comment he or she puts it up their snout also??
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| Iv been lurking in the shadows of this forum for a few years but this topic is something Iv always wished people talk about publicly. I’m in my 20’s and enjoy a night out and it no secret that certain players do recreational drugs. You could ask 9/10 young people around Wigan and they will have a story about players to tell you (a certain centre especially). I’m just shocked it’s taken this long to discuss. I didn’t mind whilst we were winning but I think we now have to start taking action. Some of these ‘professionals’ are starting to take the mick. Culture or not, your a professional, act like it..
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| The moral hysteria from some on here over cocaine use is laughable, as is the hypocrisy. Going out and drinking ten pints is just fine, but take cocaine and you’re suddenly the scum of the earth in the eyes of some. Alcohol is by some distance the greater evil, it just happens to be legal. A report by the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs, published in The Lancet in 2010, showed that cocaine is significantly less harmful than alcohol in terms of both harm caused to users and harm caused to others.
Yes, the drug is illegal and a player taking it would break the law in doing so, but how many of the sanctimonious moral arbiters on here can honestly say they’ve never never broken the law? I’m assuming that none of you upstanding citizens have ever done so by driving over the speed limit, for example- after all, the statistics show that speeding causes far more deaths per annum in the U.K. than cocaine.
The lad has made a mistake; who hasn’t? When any ban has been served, I for one hope to see him back in a Wigan jersey and being given the second chance that everyone deserves.
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| Quote ="MrPieFace"The moral hysteria from some on here over cocaine use is laughable, as is the hypocrisy. Going out and drinking ten pints is just fine, but take cocaine and you’re suddenly the scum of the earth in the eyes of some. Alcohol is by some distance the greater evil, it just happens to be legal. A report by the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs, published in The Lancet in 2010, showed that cocaine is significantly less harmful than alcohol in terms of both harm caused to users and harm caused to others.
Yes, the drug is illegal and a player taking it would break the law in doing so, but how many of the sanctimonious moral arbiters on here can honestly say they’ve never never broken the law? I’m assuming that none of you upstanding citizens have ever done so by driving over the speed limit, for example- after all, the statistics show that speeding causes far more deaths per annum in the U.K. than cocaine.
The lad has made a mistake; who hasn’t? When any ban has been served, I for one hope to see him back in a Wigan jersey and being given the second chance that everyone deserves.'"
So it's coke and not PED do you know that??
Another one that obviously puts it up their snout as much as possible??
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"So it's coke and not PED do you know that??
Another one that obviously puts it up their snout as much as possible??'"
If the other one you refer to is me I would just like to inform you I have never dabbled in cocaine. I just happen to believe the war was lost some time ago.
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| I’ve no idea whether it’s cocaine or PED’s. And, no, I don’t use cocaine- it is possible to have an informed opinion on the relative harm caused by different drugs without being a user.
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| Ha Ha, the same reply from two different posters, one with he or shes first post....nice one....
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| I’m glad it amuses you, however nothing you have said has rebutted my original post.
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Ha Ha, the same reply from two different posters, one with he or shes first post....nice one....
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You just don’t get it.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"You just don’t get it.'"
Oh, I really do..
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| We waste billions trying to prevent the unpreventable instead of raking in billions in tax. Why does holding such an opinion mean you are a user?
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"We waste billions trying to prevent the unpreventable instead of raking in billions in tax. Why does holding such an opinion mean you are a user?'"
And spend Billions and Billions more on Mental Health that is out of control, yeah tax coke and off to the beach..
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"And spend Billions and Billions more on Mental Health that is out of control, yeah tax coke and off to the beach..
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Still convinced I’m a drug addict?
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"And spend Billions and Billions more on Mental Health that is out of control, yeah tax coke and off to the beach..
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Care to apologise to me for calling me a drug user?
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Care to apologise to me for calling me a drug user?'"
No
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"No'"
Goodnight then.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Goodnight then.'"
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| I remember when this was a rugby forum. Sooner it gets back to that the better. Problem is on here that people hide behind profile names. Lets get back to the topics worth discussing not slanderous commenting on peoples lifes. Cocaine is a choice. But its illegal so you get caught you get done.
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| Quote ="JonnyBroad"I remember when this was a rugby forum. Sooner it gets back to that the better. Problem is on here that people hide behind profile names. Lets get back to the topics worth discussing not slanderous commenting on peoples lifes. Cocaine is a choice. But its illegal so you get caught you get done.'"
Another possible snorter...??
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| Quote ="JonnyBroad"I remember when this was a rugby forum. Sooner it gets back to that the better. Problem is on here that people hide behind profile names. Lets get back to the topics worth discussing not slanderous commenting on peoples lifes. Cocaine is a choice. But its illegal so you get caught you get done.'"
Correct!! Keyboard Warriors at their best/worse! Boring nonsense
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