Think a win tonight is all that matters. Weather puts paid to any chance of a free flowing performance

pack need to stand up to the big catalan forwards. Play a bit of rugby where possible, but more than anything just needs to be a smart game tonight. Play your sets out with a good kick to finish and build pressure on them. We'll get chances in their 20 to score, but we need to do the hard work to be able to do that

I know not the conditions but a little flat and slow in attack here, not many dummy runners or options

We are just a bunch of flat track bullies who lose composure at the first sign of adversity.

Don't want to be dramatic here but i think that could be game over, especially with how poor we have been, with errors, discipline and crappy attack

Ah the mid game DannyT dummy spit. Ever posted when things are going well?

In our defence the ruck is horrendously slow cause of catalan

Clean those pens up and we’re still in business. We have looked shocking but still think we have enough to turn it around

Not a good half. Catalans dominating the ruck and Cust is having a very poor game.

We look rudderless, again mainly because Cats are dominating the ruck with and without the ball.

They can absolutely turn this around but they need to get back to basics for the first 20 in the second half.

Goes without saying but we probably need to score next.

There is the old KISS analogy which is appropriate on nights like this.

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

Do that build pressure and cut out the unforced errors and I feel it’s all to play for.

Have you seen a team get so many lucky bounces of ball.
Surely we are due some

Terrible decision to go for the 2 in the second half. Lost all
Momentum and so far since got non of it back.

A Wigan fan who knows what he’s talking about

Sheer stupidity go for two it was.
Can't believe every bounce gone their way tho

The game is there for the taking. Put 4 decent sets together with some composure and the tries will come.

Very poor tonight.

Leaves us with more questions than answers.

Lots to be disappointed by, out enthused again which is the main take away from me.

Halves were terrible offered 0 threat, 0 direction, plenty more to moan about too.

Game changing moment for me was taking the 2.

Said at the time it was a terrible call and after a period of total dominance we lost all momentum.

Peet is going to earn his stripes now because some of the issues are directly as a result of some of his calls.

We still are desperate for another second row.

You come out from hiding then?

Yes halves were very poor and I always worry about Wigan in wet weather games. Going for 2 when we did was a strange one.

Michael Mcilorum was incredible.

In the main I agree with you. But I would add to the list 2 props, a hooker and a stand off. We need to replace some of our average overseas players with class signings. That pack of forwards are collectively not good enough and the problem is that we don’t have any players on the sidelines that will make a difference.

Too many stupid errors and silly mistakes, a bang average forward pack and a lack of any coherant game plan, what an awful game to watch absolutely zero entetainment (weather obviously did not help and a ref who allowed so much holding down, players staying in the ruck after they had made a tackle and offside, for both teams).

The halves weren't great but had zero platfrom from the forwards to work from - Mago at least made a few yards when he came on but the rest were nowhere near good enough against what was a fairly second string Catalan.A pack of plodders sadly.

Next game I would go with Field at 6, French at 1, Miski on the wing and Cust on the bench at 9.

I do think we will be making wholesale changes at the end of this season, however we can’t simply write off this season already.

I do think attitude plays a major part in our downfall. Sometimes we just don’t look up for it, usually when the conditions are a poor.

Think a few lads have bought their own hype.

KPP needs a good enforced rest, I’d rather see us develop Nsemba than run with him at the moment. Probably time for Byrne to get another crack.

It’s over to Peet now he did a great job in his first season but I do think at the moment he is coming up short, along with a number of players and we need to be decisive and react.

Iv been calling for the Field/French switch since midway through last year as I think having them both in the spine of the team gives us the best chance. Cust is not offering enough from 6 to justify being there and he may well have played his better rugby in the NRL at 9.

Harry Smith was very frustrating tonight with some really key errors - kicking out on the full twice is unforgivable in those conditions. But at other times he played some really smart rugby and at least had a say in the game unlike Cust.

If Miski is the answer, then we're asking the wrong questions. I'd happily see us try our luck and see if Wakey will take him on loan for the rest of the season. Get the quota spot open and hopefully IL can reinvest that Bateman fee.

I'll get shot down for it, but I'll happily say that we aren't good enough to win the comp. It's not an opinion based off a bad result, but knowing the team we have. We'll have a great May - August, playing some free flowing stuff and might (with a lucky draw or two) have a good cup run. Come late Sept/Oct it will be like tonight again, or like it was Vs Leeds last year and we won't have a plan B.

Don’t think I said Miski is the answer. A major reshuffle even if a temporary one of the spine is though as at the moment it’s not good enough.

Changing up 1, 6, 9 which will be instigated by bringing in Miski, isn’t suggesting Miski is the answer.

I agree in regards our play once the grounds firm up, there is too much pace in the team not to play some great off the cuff attacking rugby, but like you say champions are not crowned when the conditions are suited to that style of play.

For once I'm not actually arguing with you - something needs to change. I just think Miski doesn't offer much and any advantage gained from swapping lads around, is somewhat negated by the introduction of Miski into the side.

OT as I know you're close to Wakey - what's been your opinion of Proctor so far? I saw him a couple of weeks back and, whilst Wakey were dire, he put in a decent enough shift. I think he topped the tackle chart that night. I'd be happy to see Miski going as a swap for the rest of the year.

Our 9 plays the game in slow motion, he's killing us

I don't think mixing up the spine is going to make too much difference if our pack can't put in a dominant performance when our opposition actually puts up a bit of resistance.

Out of our props not one really excelled. A few did some good things. Mago made a handful of strong carries but it's nothing but a brief cameo. Ellis's offload for Smith's try was smart play but ultimately the first notable thing he's done since punching Jordan Dezaria in the face. Singleton, Cooper, Havard did little of note (lets not talk about Singleton's 'effort' on Manu Ma'u).

Whether we've got Isa or KPP it's a shockingly ineffective right edge for a top level team. Isa has had a good career out of being slightly above average most games but average should never be the benchmark. KPP should have taken his chance to be a regular starter and shown what he's capable of but he's all stylish offloads with no substance (minus the stylish offloads). There's not enough threat from that right edge.

Powell, sometimes an easy target but I thought his decision making (40/20 aside - that was great vision) was pretty terrible tonight and there was absolutely zero pace in anything that he did. He runs the ball at the wrong times, doesn't run the ball when there's an opportunity to do so. Sometimes the easiest way to trouble teams is just to threaten middle defenders that someone quick and agile is going to run at them.