Something similiar happened in 2005 (IIRC) but in reverse.

Solomonas near our line and Wakefield attacking, He's held by 3 Wigan players and Kirkpatrick shouts HELD, Wigan let go and Solomona drops over line and "Scores"!

Kirkpatrick goes to the video ref who can't hear Kirkpatrick shout Held so awards the try.

Basically if a ref gives a "Play on" call like that then there should be no way that a Penalty should be awarded, maybe it should just go back to the Play the Ball?

The ref did call it. That's the end of the matter.

How quick was Coley when he went through the gap! He went from his normal ambling to near supersonic in fifteen meters.

Said same! If the video had showed it was a tackle it was hardly Carmonts fault for doing what the ref told him to do!!

Very impressive! I reckon on yesterdays showing he'd give Joel Monaghan a run for his money

I have to question the integrity of the story of Coley's knee 'op' after seeing that sprint yesterday

Im sure in SOO someone was tackled but didnt know so they carried on going but the ref just told him to get back and play it instead of giving the penalty. Better rule?

Exactly!! Which mean't he had no right to ask the Video ref to judge it again..although i thought Silverwood had another great game in the middle..clearly the best ref in the sport on both sides of the world by a mile.

Did his knee op break the spirit of knee ops....clearly getting Steve Austin treatment from the Wigan medics..

Thats the rule, if the ref couldn't be certain that Carmont was tackled he will shout play on. He's trying to give an advantage to the attacking side just incase what he thought he saw in a split second wasn't correct, like i said you would have been furious if you had got home and saw that Carmont wasn't tackled with a lot of space to his right and Silverwood told him to play the ball.

Its the way it is, if you have a problem then contact the RFL. I don't see how you can have a problem as he gave you the advantage and benefit of the doubt to try and score a try, remember he has a split second to make a call. Its better he plays the advantage then if Carmont was tackled on the video replay then its a pen to the defence, i'm sure Wigan would take those odds every time which is a possible pen to the opposition in their own 20 with no danger against an advantage with a strong possibilty of a 6 pointer.

The problem I have is the letter of the law would have meant it would be a penalty to Wire if turned down which would have been a farce considering it's the refs error. If the try got turned down the game should have just gone back to Carmont playing the ball but it wouldn't have and that's the issue.

I'm not sure you can see where we're all coming from. Like I originally said, if Carmont was tackled but got the nod to play on, he is in a lose lose situation. Take himback to the play the ball would be the best decision but wouldn't happen.

If you actually listen to the ref, you can hear from his ear piece, the video ref says "but you said play on", but he asked to look anyway.
A bloody shambles if you ask me!

once refs made a play on decision he shouldnt be allowed to ask video ref if he was correct.

take cricket......ump gives LBW......he cant ask if he was right, but player might if review systems there.

BUT......if hes in doubt about a run out, he goes for the screen, similar to video ref in our spor, to check if a try is a try??
neither should be allowed to challenge their own decisions.

I remember that

I agree with the OP: Silverwood called 'play on' because he judged that the tackle wasn't complete, so if Carmont had have played the ball, that would have been a penalty against Wigan. That's different to playing advantage (for which the video ref would be appropriate). By going to the video ref to check on the tackle, what the ref is really checking for is whether his call to the player was correct. If his call was incorrect, one 'fair' thing to do could be to go back to that tackle and make Carmont play the ball, rather than giving a penalty against Carmont, as the player was acting under the control of the referee (Section 16.7 of the rulebook, if you're interested).

However, according to the rulebook (Section 16.9, below), Silverwood shouldn't have gone to the video ref for that decision at all, so the overheard earpiece comment from the video ref was the right one.



The ref had a split second decision to make, and was right to go with his instincts (as the replays showed), so in the end there was no impact on the game. But it does bring up an interesting possible gap in the current rulebook. FWIW, I think that we should allow video ref help in decisions when advantage is played. (The case of Carmont's tackle wasn't advantage, though.)

Pace on Coley though.. like a train.

That was ridiculous wasn't it? How many times does a winger intercept a pass and get caught?

By a Loose Forward

Who started on the other side of the pitch.

As soon as he caught it, I looked over quick and Lockers was already on his tracks.

Great stuff from the skipper to make that effort, especially being a forward - also thumbs up to Sam for making it back too.

On a separate note, I was glad they didn't score for Finch. Just started to get the fans approval and he could have cost us the game.

Indeed, when he caught it I just presumed it was a try, no winger should be caught by a forward running from the other side of the pitch like that imo.

Had a disagreement with a fan behind me about the same thing.

'He's f*cking e that Finch, why is he in a Wigan shirt?'

The same Brett Finch who has been our man of the match at least 3/4 times in the last 8 games? Apart from the interception yesterday when he should have just passed to Carmont, he was influential again and controlled us well with Deacs and Tommy.

Get off his back and get behind a player who could be the difference in our double bid.

All hail Mr Side



Liked the 'Finchy Finchy give us a wave' before kick off as well. Get behind him and watch him go.