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| When Faz scored was Austin on the deck holding his leg, neck, arm or foot? One thing was sure he wasn't making a tackle. Partington's tackle knocked the stuffing out of him.
Where was that Wolf tonight?
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| Quote ="ralvag"I’d go as far as saying Brown has been the best that Sky have had on in that role for a long time. The commentary otherwise (Jenna aside) was dog rough as per.'"
Sack Terry, Baz and Phil and get Brown in with Wilkin.
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"Sack Terry, Baz and Phil and get Brown in with Wilkin.'"
What a good idea!
Funnily enough, a friend texted me during the game and said that Brown should replace O’Connor.
We also agree that Wilkin is excellent.
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| I don’t think Clarke’s too bad though. At least he speaks English.
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| Somebody said upthread, was the game that good? Well I've been away, and had the Wigan game and Raiders/Roosters recorded, and I must admit, I watched the Raiders first; I'd been really looking forward to seeing GW against the Roosters, and he and his team didn't disappoint! Then watching the Wigan game, I thought it was a well above-average SL encounter. Warrington should have won, Ratchford was excellent as usual, but they didn't make the most of their chances. I was impressed with Singleton too, a very good effort, and hopefully he will only improve further. Bullock too put in a good shift. But again, the lack of game plan, still poor last tackles options, and Smith surely introduced late. Luckily today, not too late. That pin-point kick he landed in the in-goal by the corner flag; all Bibby had to do was make the tackle, and he couldn't do it, and Charnley came away with the ball; it deserved better. Faz a machine as usual, let's keep him in his proper position.
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| Anyone got the stats for Brad Singleton last night?
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| Singleton played like Coley used to, hard work, direct and always wanted the ball,just a no nonsense approach. It's a shame we can't lose Clubb as well as Flower at the end of this season, we really don't need either. Burgess is another matter, we all hope he gets fit and probably most important for him is some confidence in his own body, to really be the explosive player he's known for.
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| Another thing about last night. The Hardaker break. I think one of the correct decisions Lam has made is putting him at centre. He is a strong lad who tackles well (although doesn't give Manfredi much ball) but 2 or 3 years ago Zak was away and gone with that break and not for catching.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"Another thing about last night. The Hardaker break. I think one of the correct decisions Lam has made is putting him at centre. He is a strong lad who tackles well (although doesn't give Manfredi much ball) but 2 or 3 years ago Zak was away and gone with that break and not for catching.'"
not many caught him then, Charnley is rapid and would have caught Hardaker all day long, French didnt get to him and Bibby looked like he was running in mud
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| Quote ="Pieman"not many caught him then, Charnley is rapid and would have caught Hardaker all day long, French didnt get to him and Bibby looked like he was running in mud'"
Bibby is really frustrating. I honestly think there is a good player their and he showed it for Salford. Last night he had some shockers. Stick him back to centre and we’ll get a better output. He really needs to learn not to shoot the line when defending. Budge was murder for that at one point, that trait seems to have been coached out of him.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"Anyone got the stats for Brad Singleton last night?'"
Metres from our forwards:
1. Farrell - 141m (17 carries)
2. Partington - 125m (13 carries)
3. Bullock - 112m (12 carries)
4. Singleton - 94m (13 carries)
Top metres from our outside backs:
1. Manfredi - 178m (18 carries)
2. Hardaker - 176m (19 carries)
3. French - 128m (13 carries)
4. Isa - 111m (13 carries)
Top tacklers:
1. Farrell - 55
2. Powell - 52
3. Partington - 45
4. Smithies - 37
5. Hastings - 36
(26 tackles from Singleton, which is decent)
Marker tackles
1. Farrell - 18
=2. Partington - 10
=2. Powell - 10
=2. Bullock - 10
5. Smithies - 8
Tackle busts:
1. Hardaker - 8
=2. French - 6
=2. Manfredi - 6
=4. Farrell - 5
=4. Hastings - 5
It's rare that all our props post over 90 metres in a single game. Really good efforts from Partington, Singleton and Bullock. You wouldn't have thought Singleton was playing his first game for months given how he got stuck in. 94m is more than all of our props average except for Havard.
Farrell is also a machine. That work rate to be our top metre making forward, the games joint top tackler, putting in the most repeat efforts in defence and being the one to come up with the match winning play shows what a special player he is. I think a lot of people still don't realise how good he is.
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| The Warrington stats are crackers for a losing team. There are very few players who went under 100m for them, so it’s a real sign of just how well we defended and how much guts the side showed to get out of that with a win.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"Singleton played like Coley used to, hard work, direct and always wanted the ball,just a no nonsense approach. It's a shame we can't lose Clubb as well as Flower at the end of this season, we really don't need either. Burgess is another matter, we all hope he gets fit and probably most important for him is some confidence in his own body, to really be the explosive player he's known for.'"
I think Singleton is more like Flower. Coley used to make a lot of ground after contact and was on the pitch for longer spells where Singleton is more aggressive but isn’t a big meter maker, tries to win the collision and get a quick play of the ball. Even last night after getting a lot of praise on here his meters made where less than Bullock and Partington in both total and average carry. That’s obviously not the be all and end all but it shows where he will fit in, he’s probably going to be fighting out to make the 17 rather than being a regular imo. Although it was a really promising start considering he’s not played for months.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"It’s such a bizarre move taking of Powell and putting Hastings at 9.'"
Hastings has gone to number 9 in every game when Leuluai or Powell has gone off and Smith has been introduced.
As far as I am concerned, the time has come for Leuluai to be on the subs bench as substitution cover for the half backs and hooker and our starting halfbacks should be Hastings at Stand Off with Smith at Scrum Half. The more game time that Smith plays will be better for the future as he will get more experience than what is is getting at present by only coming on late in a game.
The cup tie against Leeds started to change when Smith with his kicking game was introduced, but by then, we had already lost!
Wigan should show the same confidence in Harry Smith as Castleford did with Jake Truman and Leeds did a few seasons ago with Rob Burrow.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"I think Singleton is more like Flower. Coley used to make a lot of ground after contact and was on the pitch for longer spells where Singleton is more aggressive but isn’t a big meter maker, tries to win the collision and get a quick play of the ball. Even last night after getting a lot of praise on here his meters made where less than Bullock and Partington in both total and average carry. That’s obviously not the be all and end all but it shows where he will fit in, he’s probably going to be fighting out to make the 17 rather than being a regular imo. Although it was a really promising start considering he’s not played for months.'"
It’ll be about balance and getting the right pair on the field at the same time. I think from what I’ve seen so far this season our four should be Havard, Partington, Bullock and Singleton and I’d want to split them so you have your two biggest metre makers separate and then Partington and Singleton on at different times so you’ve got that aggression. If Havard is back next week, I’d put him in the bench with Singleton and start Partington and Bullock again. I would then challenge Burgess, Byrne, Flower, Clubb, Clark and Kilner to show they can break that group of four up when they get a chance. To say we have so many props, it’s weird to think that we’ve not really had that competition for places. It’s always seemed like due to one thing or another, we’ve had at most 4 or 5 of them available.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"
Wigan should show the same confidence in Harry Smith as Castleford did with Jake Truman and Leeds did a few seasons ago with Rob Burrow.'"
Or Wigan did with Sam Tomkins and George William's etc.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Pr Wigan did with Sam Tomkins and George William's etc.'"
Yeah but George was crap.
I agree on the halves, but I do like how we can turn the game by injecting Smith into the attack.
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| And Burrow was in his 20's before he became a 1st team starter ,Andrew Dunemann was 1st choice.
He only made 5 starts in 2002 as a 21 year old, but was sub in another 24 games that season.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"Metres from our forwards:
1. Farrell - 141m (17 carries)
2. Partington - 125m (13 carries)
3. Bullock - 112m (12 carries)
4. Singleton - 94m (13 carries)
Top metres from our outside backs:
1. Manfredi - 178m (18 carries)
2. Hardaker - 176m (19 carries)
3. French - 128m (13 carries)
4. Isa - 111m (13 carries)
Top tacklers:
1. Farrell - 55
2. Powell - 52
3. Partington - 45
4. Smithies - 37
5. Hastings - 36
(26 tackles from Singleton, which is decent)
Marker tackles
1. Farrell - 18
=2. Partington - 10
=2. Powell - 10
=2. Bullock - 10
5. Smithies - 8
Tackle busts:
1. Hardaker - 8
=2. French - 6
=2. Manfredi - 6
=4. Farrell - 5
=4. Hastings - 5
It's rare that all our props post over 90 metres in a single game. Really good efforts from Partington, Singleton and Bullock. You wouldn't have thought Singleton was playing his first game for months given how he got stuck in. 94m is more than all of our props average except for Havard.
Farrell is also a machine. That work rate to be our top metre making forward, the games joint top tackler, putting in the most repeat efforts in defence and being the one to come up with the match winning play shows what a special player he is. I think a lot of people still don't realise how good he is.'"
Brad looked like he was carrying a few excessive pounds last night so I expect him to get better the more he plays. What I do like about him is his attitude, Waney would have loved him.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And Burrow was in his 20's before he became a 1st team starter ,Andrew Dunemann was 1st choice.'"
No need to rush him Brian but I think he does need longer minutes on the pitch.
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| Some great stats from our pack there.
Shame they didn't step up the week before like
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Some great stats from our pack there.
Shame they didn't step up the week before like'"
That's the annoying part, I got a text from a friend saying great win, I replied "Infuriating team, anything like that performance last week v Leeds and we'd probably be at Wembley"
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Hastings has gone to number 9 in every game when Leuluai or Powell has gone off and Smith has been introduced.
As far as I am concerned, the time has come for Leuluai to be on the subs bench as substitution cover for the half backs and hooker and our starting halfbacks should be Hastings at Stand Off with Smith at Scrum Half. The more game time that Smith plays will be better for the future as he will get more experience than what is is getting at present by only coming on late in a game.
The cup tie against Leeds started to change when Smith with his kicking game was introduced, but by then, we had already lost!
Wigan should show the same confidence in Harry Smith as Castleford did with Jake Truman and Leeds did a few seasons ago with Rob Burrow.'"
Agreed mate. For me Leuluai has been poor for weeks now and his kicking game in particular is a real issue with Hastings at 6, who is playing out of his skin and offering a lot more than Tommy. I’ve also been disappointed in a lot of Leuluai’s decision making and defensive misses which is a surprise.
I do like Hastings’ zip at 9 when he goes there but we would probably get that from Tommy if we used him as an impact hooker for 20 mins a game.
I also think Harry Smith’s defence has improved massively since earlier in the season and not really a concern now. It was shocking when we lost at Cas in Feb/March but he’s been fantastic in defence in the last few weeks.
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| Slightly off topic, but my Sky box hasn't recorded the game. Are there any options to see the game on demand or online somewhere.
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| Quote ="Big Steve"Slightly off topic, but my Sky box hasn't recorded the game. Are there any options to see the game on demand or online somewhere.'"
Full game now on Wigan tv
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