We should have held out and tried to sign Liam Tindall from Leeds, maybe its worth a bid for Connor Wrench from Warrington? Or both.

Or use the money for Will Pryce from Huddersfield?

Good riddance. I didn't want him at the club in the first place. The club have stood by him after his drugs ban, and then drink driving. Then he moved back to Yorkshire and tried to force a move. I have literally only started warming to him over the last few weeks after he was putting in good performances despite playing out of his preferred position, and thinking he was growing up a bit and 'knuckling down' despite having to commute. How wrong was I?

Think Wigan could have absolutely buried him in that statement but tried to be classy about it.

There’s a lot more gone on.

How pathetic is Hardaker, a grown man who can’t handle a couple of hours commute? Doesn’t know he’s born.

I’ve been critical of him for years as a player, a solid and occasionally above average player, so overrated we never got the player from Cas or Leeds.

He’s signed for Leeds
What do I know lol?

I know that Wigan looked long and hard at McDonald last year and it was concerns around his off field behaviour that stopped them from completing any deal.

Ironic now that they need a replacement for a player with off field issues.

Yeah really ironic



I didn't hear anything about us looking at McDonald long and hard. I usually get a sniff of transfer dealings. The only one I missed was Cust but fair play if you know that.

I'm not trying to be a real ITK

Brian (Rogues Gallery) will vouch for me in terms of who and what I know so this is genuine.

You would have to assume that Wigan have terminated his contract knowing Leeds wanted him without having to pay him off and Leeds have picked up the tab. Surely we haven't ripped up his contract, paid him off and he walks into a new contract.

Didn't say you were. That's why I said fair play if you knew that because I didn't. I'm not ITK either, well maybe a bit but that because I know a few current players within the league, that's how I knew Tomkins had signed for Catalans, gelling had been released etc weeks before it came out. I rely on loose lips not someone going out of their way to give me a scoop

it's part of the reason I laugh so much at the geezer on the other site with his 'scoops'. His Nostradamus predictions that in the next 1000 years there will be a war In Europe.

Yes, you're not bad, for a Saints fan

and you do have some very good connections inside RL.

The club got rid of his profile page pretty quickly.

Some one on Redvee mentioned rumours of an incident involving the police in Ponty. Will the bloke ever learn?

Will we have to pay his wages up? Or them count against the cap as he’s been released? Or with it being a disciplinary reasons does it not count?

I remember a poster on here called Nottingham Tiger been laughed off the forum for suggesting that this would eventually happen...

It did happen- 3years later

I don’t think many laughed at him for suggesting that (it would be stupid to think this couldn’t happen again), from memory he was laughed at for being stalker like with Zak.

It will be interesting to see what he has actually done, before the Saints game it was brushed off as something fairly minor by both the club and Zak.

And was this mismanagement by the Wigan club? As it was with Leeds and Castleford?

In fairness he only had what 6 months of his deal left so I suppose Wigan did pretty well with him

He was only as accurate as I am in saying that Tom Johnstone is going to leave Wakey. Of course he is. At some point. The bit NT neglected to say was when, and that was nearly 4 years ago. Wakey will be lucky if TJ is still there in 4 years time, so it seems like a reasonable punt on my part.

A little different, Hardaker has been sacked at every SL club he`s been at, when signed your chairman then blamed those clubs mismanagement of Zak when it was quite clear it was the man himself who had chance after chance. Wigan have done everything right by him, in fact you went above and beyond, if it wasn`t for Wigan he`d be playing in the championship at the very best if at all, and look at how he has repaid the club. I do think though you shouldn`t have bothered, he can`t keep himself out of trouble and he`s had chance after chance.

I don`t get the TJ comparison though, you`d be hard pressed to find a Wakefield fan that would disagree with you on that, in fact we thought he`d be off before he signed his last deal however Tom stuck by the club that stuck by him in some very dark times perhaps ZH could take a leaf out of this book.

He didn’t get laughed at for suggesting it would end in tears, he got laughed at for being obsessed with what Hardaker was doing away from the field. Most people on here didn’t want Hardaker but as it’s turned out we’ve had 3 and a bit seasons out of him and it’s all been reasonably uneventful (for Hardaker).

Facts are that he’s not a particularly good player anymore. A solid fullback and a decent centre. We’ll miss him because we’re now short of a decent player and a half decent goal kicker but i don’t think anybody will lose any sleep (well maybe Nottingham Tiger will as he’ll be in Hardakers bushes again).

I think saying he’s not a particularly good player is harsh, he played internationally at centre in the off season just gone and he’s a better full back as well, he’s been stuck on the wing this year so well out of position and a tough place to shine with a lack of pace. I could see him going Leeds and doing well at full back.

There were 2 incidents
So make sure you don't confuse wigans response prior to the Saints game and the reason he got dropped, with what happened a couple of days later and why he's been released etc.

2 different things

I’m not sure it is. He’s decent nowadays but as a centre I wouldn’t have him in the group of better ones in the league. He played for England due to a number of absences IIRC. Maybe it’s unfair to judge him on his wing performances and ultimately I think there’s been a real lack of motivation on his part to play anywhere other than fullback but on his actual performance levels as a centre or winger for us this season and last, I wouldn’t have him as a standout.

I agree if he goes to Leeds and plays fullback he’ll probably improve rapidly. He did play his best rugby for us at fullback early last season but he’s not going to play fullback here, so you’re left with an unmotivated, decent centre. Aside from any debate over his current level as a player, it’s just a relief to know there isn’t a disaster waiting around the corner.