They were hardly nothing games were they? The two league drubbings given to Wigan last season were a big reason we finished top. The last two knockout games are 1 win each, with both teams dishing out a massive knobbing. Neither really matters though. It's yet ANOTHER Wire v Wigan thread that descends into a childish tit for tat argument. It's embarassing.

It is yes, yet you guys keep coming back telling us how good you are and how we should be pooping ourselves

Well bully for you !

Err tomorrow's game is a Super League game

So the league games and finishing top this year means nothing but last year it did?
Oh i get it now!
Someone better tell the wolfs board that. They keep telling everyone how rotation and not finishing top is the key to play off and grand final success, and if theres one club we should listen to for advice in that dept its the mighty Wolfs

And BTW, spanker started it so there!

It would be interesting to consider how many of each club's first team squad have been brought into the club as external signings. I would have a guess that there is very little difference between the number of signed players each club has in their squad.

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I'll have a go at this one:


Wire:

Brett Hodgson [Signed
Chris Riley [Academy
Chris Bridge [Signed
Ryan Atkins [Signed
Joel Monaghan [Signed
Lee Briers [Signed
Richie Myler [Signed
Adrian Morley [Signed
Michael Monaghan [Signed
Gareth Carvell [Signed
Trent Waterhouse [Signed
Ben Westwood [Signed
Ben Harrison [Academy
Mick Higham [Signed
Simon Grix [Signed
Paul Wood [Academy
Mike Cooper [Academy
Matty Blythe [Academy
Stef Ratchford [Signed
Chris Hill [Signed
Tyron McCarthy [Academy
Rhys Williams [Signed
Rhys Evans [Academy
Gareth O'Brien [Academy
David Solomona [Signed
Danny Bridge [Signed at age 18 from Wigan Academy
Brooke Broughton [Academy
Jordan Burke [Academy
Ben Currie [Academy - Was signed from Wigan, but before he was in Wigan Academy
Brad Dwyer [Academy
Ben Evans [Academy
Ben Hellewell [Academy
James Laithwaite [Academy
James Mandeika [Academy
Glenn Riley [Academy
James Saltonstall [Academy
Ryan Shaw [Academy

Out of 37 Players for Wire 19 are from academy, a little over 50% there.

Wigan

And out of 36 for Wigan 24 are from our academy. Overwhelmingly in our favour on that one!

Couldn't give a monkeys if we signed them all or had a full team of academy, 13 v 13 and if they wear the P&B, i don't care.

Glenn Riley played for Wigan academy.

It was about number of players in each club's first team squad that were externally signed rather than Academy produced.

From the Warrington list Bridge has yet to play first team so can't really be classed first team squad so I'm discounting him whilst Williams was through our Academy (recruited when released by Welsh RU at 1icon_cool.gif. That leaves 16 players signed externally.

With the Wigan list then obviously Thornley has been externally signed (as you acknowledge with your "resigned" reference) whilst Roberts has also been in your first team squad this season. That by my reckoning gives Wigan 14 players signed externally.

So 16 against 14 is not that big a difference when all said and done. Certainly an interesting alternative and radically different view than taht given in Odem's post.

+1

Warrington signed him from Wath Brow - is it the same player? (and I wouldn't class him as first team squad anyway).

Yes, he played for Wigan about two or three years back and then returned to Cumbria. I was surprised when I saw him v Wigan earlier this year too see how big he was.

Until Warrington win a GF then they need to tread very carefully with the opinions, 2 CC's is good don't get me wrong but all great teams win GF's, Warrington need to step up, because currently they haven't!!

Infact getting to a GF would be a start for the 'Mighty Wire', walk before you can run and all that!!

I don't quite get this whole thing where Wiganers get erections over their wonderful, never-be-beaten academy.....Spending cash and signing big name players was never a concern back in the 80's and 90's was it??...



I suppose bankrupting yourself and losing your stadium can be a major reason for this change in mindset???....

Dont forget our LLS

Oh i'm sure i have to be somewhere on august 25th

I didn't mention the LLS because according to most if not all of your fans on here 'it means nothing'! You might be at the GF but if your very recent and distant history is anything to go by your team won't be!!

You're not a traffic warden By any chance are you ?

Whether he is or not, it's nice that you use a Smilie to show us your vocation.

I love the moving of the goalposts. Make your minds up.

"Wire are sh*t, haven't won anything for years"

We win the CC cup

"The CC is rubbish now, finishing top the league or winning the GF is the sign of a great team".

Wire finish top of the league and Wigan the CC.

" The League means nothing, not a proper trophy, the CC and GF are the two main ones".

Wigan are top of the league with Wire in the CC final.

" The CC isn't that good, finishing top or GF is a true measure."

Come on, you're allowed to give other teams credit.We were something to laugh at for quite a while, hadn't won a trophy for years yadda, yadda, yadda. It's gone now, in the past, accept it. Wire, Leeds, Saints and Wigan are the premier teams in SL now and are much better than the rest. Any of these teams can beat the other on their day and are more than capable of winning SL. Who gives a sh*t who has the most academy players?, how many dogs have licked Joels cock?, where has Gelling had a dump this week?

It's going to be a great game between two great teams. There is a bit of fear from both sets of fans and also alot of respect hidden behind that fear. It's just that both sets of fans won't admit it. Wigan don't like Wire being the new kids on the block and have been their biggest rival in terms of league position the past 3 years and Wire will always envy Wigan due to their success.

Are they actual quotes from Wigan fans or just your own? We all know the main competition is the playoffs and GF, just talk me through your record in that please! Yes Wire have very good players and are a very good team and have been for a few years but still no GF and your chances of winning it this year are the highest, but if you don't then all your 30+ players will be a year older. In my opinion if you do not sign anyone this off season then next year you will be weaker and I think TS has stated it is unlikely you will, time to depend on your youth, that wouldn't fill me with much confidence if I was a Wire fan!!

Don't you just hate it when the kids are off school....