last year quite a few were saying that Gelling was not a winger or centre, who knows, he may even be in the frame for the 2nd row now..........

I see none of you are bothering to dispute the Butcher's logic? Everything above is spot on, it's just that it's too much for some fans to take when little old Salford turn the tables and take away a prized asset from one of the "big 4". For 25 years I've had to suffer the likes of Wigan, Wire etc taking our best talent because, let's face it, Salford have never been in a position to compete and hold on to them. The Salford area isn't a massice production line for RL talent when compared with the likes of Wigan and it's been galling to see the likes of Betts, Morley, Watkins shine for other SL clubs when a strong Salford could have been in a position to offer them a decent career with the chance of success. With Dr K on board Salford fans now have genuine hope that the next Morley, Betts, Watkins may well see Salford as an attractive proposition and let's be honest, playing for your hometown club in any sport is a massive thing for most people.

BTW, it's spelt Kou[uk[/uash... some of you seem to have a problem with the spelling.

Slim I fully agree with what you are saying, it is sad to read what some are saying on here that HH is leaving for a longer contract or more money etc.
The lad wants to go to his home town club after putting his body on the line in the first team for 7/8 years.

When Pat Richards announced that he was going home only a couple of months prior to HH saying that he would be leaving, the club posters to a man thanked him for his services to the club and wished him well.
But HH seams to be viewed in a different light, it as happened before and it will happen again.

As an example Morley is going to his home town club and there is always a chance that other players in the club may want to return to their home town clubs in the future.
Maybe this is a price that a club like Wigan with a very successful scouting system have to pay.

The logic of Sale Slim is difficult to disagree with but would HH be as keen to play for his home town club without the Dr's cash..........
I wish the lad well he has been a great servant to Wigan.

Spoke to H last year (2012) and again this year about contracts and where he'd like to be. Said he'd never want to leave Wigan provided they paid him the going rate for a first choice second row - and yes, gave me figures. Said that Salford were interested and a good offer was around, but that he'd stay at Wigan on LESS than that offer

Oh, and his old man wanted him to go back to the Southern Hemisphere!

Bit O/T but just read on the Hull board Tuson has slipped a disc in pre season and has already been ruled out for 5 months, when will the lad catch a break? Always seems to get an injury when he has a big opportunity. Gutted for him.

5 Months slipped disc? I sneeze and my disc slips but back to normal after a week or two, usually happens every other month. talking of bad backs was thinking about this after watching Wigan Tv anybody else think Paul Prescott might make a reappearance this season?

Loyalty to a club is all well and good but a player must look to their own future. Good luck to H. I also think that we should wish good luck to Salford as a whole because we need an improvement in standards across the league to bring the investors in. I just hope that the Dr is there for the long haul.