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| Quote ="Odem"Quote ="21-12"I just don't know how we managed to ever fill central park without the name warriors, it's obviously the be all and end all of marketing.'"
From someone who studies marketing, I personally think it would be better if the name reflected the proud history of the club.
You could still have a warriors mascot, a max club, 'Team W.A.R.R.I.O.R' on the wall in the dressing room etc.
I think it is sad that I hear people talking about us as the Warriors... I would rather we be called Wigan, Warriors means nothing to us.
A good strong traditional club can be just as attractive as the silly names you find in America.
Hull and St Helens seem to do fine without a silly name.
Saying all that, it would cost a lot of money and I am not sure the money spent changing the name would be worth the return.'"
Like it or not, the global nature of the Premier League means that you're in direct competition with Latics to use the 'Wigan' name, and it's nowhere near as clear cut as it used to be. Not only have you got an entire generation of fans used to using the name (and plenty a lot older, I might add), but you need something to differentiate your identity from the Latics. The only viable alternative would probably just be 'Wigan Rugby' in the same way that Gloucester RU use it.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Like it or not, the global nature of the Premier League means that you're in direct competition with Latics to use the 'Wigan' name, and it's nowhere near as clear cut as it used to be. Not only have you got an entire generation of fans used to using the name (and plenty a lot older, I might add), but you need something to differentiate your identity from the Latics. The only viable alternative would probably just be 'Wigan Rugby' in the same way that Gloucester RU use it.'"
Agreed, they get free marketing through SSN every day so people put the name Wigan next to Latics.
'Wigan Rugby League' is the perfect way to fix that.
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| Not read the whole thread but just on the Latics question, Latics get alot of PR on SSN, but I don't think it's any state secret that their time in the Premier league is limited. It's a credit to them that with such a limited fan base they can manage their resources so well when other city clubs cannot, but Wigan FC are always going to struggle to expand their fans base outside their current watchers.
Their hinterland is severley limited by other bigger football teams to follow and traditional rugby rivalries.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Not read the whole thread but just on the Latics question, Latics get alot of PR on SSN, but I don't think it's any state secret that their time in the Premier league is limited. It's a credit to them that with such a limited fan base they can manage their resources so well when other city clubs cannot, but Wigan FC are always going to struggle to expand their fans base outside their current watchers.
Their hinterland is severley limited by other bigger football teams to follow and traditional rugby rivalries.'"
Very much so, but the Championship still receives a lot of coverage and in a football-centric media, Latics will habitually be referred to as 'Wigan' to the stage where "Are you going to the Wigan game?" isn't as clear cut a question as maybe it used to be. That is as much a problem for the game as a whole though and I'm sure must have played a part with the Bulls and Rhinos of this world who are trying to compete for attention with football teams from the same place.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Where did you get this loss of "thousands of pounds" from? are people really more inclined on buying a product because it has the Warriors tag?'"
I know it seems irrelevant to an adult but to a Kid a name like that is a big part of why they want to start going in the first place. Plus all the money from the Max the Warrior merchandise (and all of the other 'warrior' based merch in the shop) Not to mention the whole season ticket campaign last year was highly based on the 'Im A Warrior' tag. It may mean little to you but it a simple and easy way for the club to rattle off more money.
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| [iA club spokesperson at Wigan Athletic said: “The stadium was built for two clubs and they work together.
"Mr Whelan is more than happy that the Stadium is home to two successful sides."[/i
That's the end of that then.
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Quote ="Benidorm John"Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Over 25,000 all seated stadium
Eight lounges that can accommodate over 1600 people in total
Car parking for over 2,500 cars
Italian Restaurant
A brilliant trophy cabinet that still holds some of the games greatest prizes.'"
All owned by your landlord
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Ah but if you had a landlord you could get him to repair the roof (again)
www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... h-8/page42
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Quote ="Benidorm John"Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Over 25,000 all seated stadium
Eight lounges that can accommodate over 1600 people in total
Car parking for over 2,500 cars
Italian Restaurant
A brilliant trophy cabinet that still holds some of the games greatest prizes.'"
All owned by your landlord
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Ah but if you had a landlord you could get him to repair the roof (again)
www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... h-8/page42
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Quote ="Benidorm John"Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Over 25,000 all seated stadium
Eight lounges that can accommodate over 1600 people in total
Car parking for over 2,500 cars
Italian Restaurant
A brilliant trophy cabinet that still holds some of the games greatest prizes.'"
All owned by your landlord
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Ah but if you had a landlord you could get him to repair the roof (again)
www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... h-8/page42'"
So, no undersoil heating and now no roof.
Their stadium looks great, but it doesn't seem to be very weather resistant. They'd better hope we now get lots of long, dry, warm summers.
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Quote ="Benidorm John"Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Over 25,000 all seated stadium
Eight lounges that can accommodate over 1600 people in total
Car parking for over 2,500 cars
Italian Restaurant
A brilliant trophy cabinet that still holds some of the games greatest prizes.'"
All owned by your landlord
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Ah but if you had a landlord you could get him to repair the roof (again)
www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... h-8/page42'"
So, no undersoil heating and now no roof.
Their stadium looks great, but it doesn't seem to be very weather resistant. They'd better hope we now get lots of long, dry, warm summers.
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| Just seen a photo of their roof on facebook. Doesn't bode well at all. Lets hope they can get it all sorted because if it continues to keep blowing off then surely its going to be a serious health and safety risk?
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| Quote ="Robbo"Just seen a photo of their roof on facebook. Doesn't bode well at all. Lets hope they can get it all sorted because if it continues to keep blowing off then surely its going to be a serious health and safety risk?'"
The stadium will not be signed of by the architect or building regulations until they can certify this problem is rectified. Big blow so close to the new season for Saints.
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| Langtree Park sponsored by Screwfix.
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| It's the second time it has happened. You would hope that it is a workmanship issue rather than materials / design problem.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It's the second time it has happened. You would hope that it is a workmanship issue rather than materials / design problem.'"
Without a doubt the structure should have more than adequate lateral stability to resist horizontal wind loads and so the cladding should be designed and manufactured to transfer wind loads exerted on them. If the issue is based on design it could be a costly one depending on contractual agreements, it will certainly delay the project's completion.
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| This is absoulutely hilarious!!!!
Obviously made from the finest materials man can find.
Rubbish!!!!
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| langtree park is falling down, falling down, falling down. Langtree park is falling down ............. HaHa
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| Its all part of the plan, they are experimenting a roof like Cardiff that opens and closes Either that or they have gone for the "open plan" look.
Never fail to let us down do they. Tin pot.
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| Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"
Without a doubt the structure should have more than adequate lateral stability to resist horizontal wind loads and so the cladding should be designed and manufactured to transfer wind loads exerted on them. '"
Thats exactly what I thought
Tin pot sh.ithouses
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| Quote ="21-12"Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?'"
Building Control asses sporting grounds through out construction to ensure plans/regulations are being adhered to and then on completion to inspect the final structure. At present the Langtree stadium would fail on Structures and Components!
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| At least the Saint Helens undesirables don't have to climb on to the roof to nick metal to weigh in, they just have to wait at the bottom, hand delivered.
Is this 'giving back to the community' ?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"At least the Saint Helens undesirables don't have to climb on to the roof to nick metal to weigh in, they just have to wait at the bottom, hand delivered.
Is this 'giving back to the community' ?'"
careful, make a post about the roof being nicked and it will get deleted
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| Built on the cheap. Very poor from saints, lets hope the fans inside will be safe when a game is eventually played there.
This hasn't happened at any other new grounds. Clearly something has gone wrong with the materials, the builders or the design.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="21-12"Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?'"
Building Control asses sporting grounds through out construction to ensure plans/regulations are being adhered to and then on completion to inspect the final structure. At present the Langtree stadium would fail on Structures and Components!'"
But it will already have building control sign-off so not an issue here.
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="TrentBarrett"Quote ="21-12"Have they got a safety certificate for this shambles yet?'"
Building Control asses sporting grounds through out construction to ensure plans/regulations are being adhered to and then on completion to inspect the final structure. At present the Langtree stadium would fail on Structures and Components!'"
But it will already have building control sign-off so not an issue here.'"
Your wrong, building control inspect a project at a series of stages during construction noticeable completion. A building must be inspected and signed offed prior to occupation and use, area's in which a sport's ground are asses on are:
Safe Capacity
Safety Management
Stewarding
Structures and Components Langtree would currently fail here.
Circulation General
Exit routes unobstructed
Controlled Ingress
Stairs / Ramps
Concourses & Vomitories
Emergency Procedures
Barriers
Seating Accommodation
Standing Accommodation
Disabled Facilities / Areas
Fire Safety
Communications
Electrical / Mechanical
Medical Provision, First Aid
Media Provision
Tidiness
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