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| Quote ="Deano G"You're right. Of course it was an obstruction. And I was livid!
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It wasn't obstruction. Meli actually went to tackle Bridge who was the dummy runner.
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| I was thinking that it was pretty poor defensively, 1st half, 2nd half much better. DW was our best performance (bizzarly) but last night we were better than we were against wigan, simple completion stats will confirm that.
We are rebuilding though, so I'm not overly disappointed.
Player wise we need a prop (Clough)
FB (sad to say as wellens is a legend but Lance on route)
More experience in the half backs( takes time that's all, mistakes will happen, if you want to develop a half back rather than buy in you have to expect errors, just a pitty we are developing both half backs in the same games in the same year. ) (Ideally Gaskell would have been a year or 2 in the making behind Lomax)
Game wise we need that intensity for the full 80, not letting teams have 16, 18 , 20 point leads. We also need that intensity week in week out even if playing a poorer team. Warrington have belted lower teams we have not been at that pace week in and week out.
And that is why we lost. IMHO.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Hahahaha what a great thread keep it up lads.
Award for most bitter one eyed pie fan goes to Deano G
Haha what turd you talk'"
Another intelligent contribution from a Dire fan.
I'm not bitter, actually I'm very happy this morning, looking forward to the Big One and while I'm nervous about predicting a Wigan win (Hudds are a very powerful side and would have beaten Saints and Wire based on last night's evidence) I will make two predictions - we'll see some very strong and well organised defence from both sides today and there will be a properly big crowd. (Anyone else laugh when Eddie referred last night to the "massive crowd"?)
If we can win today - a big, big test - then we will deservedly be favourites for the SL title and indeed the cup. We will be running into form as the season reaches a crucial phase. Hock's back, Fielden will be back shortly, this is an exciting time to be a fan of the game's greatest club.
So not bitter at all. My team are champions and we have every chance of retaining the SL title and bringing the CC back home. Wigan fans have been dreaming of this for a decade (and fans of other clubs fearing it for a decade). We are back. I'm very happy!
Bring it on Hudds!
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"It wasn't obstruction. Meli actually went to tackle Bridge who was the dummy runner.'"
If it wasn't obstruction then it won't be long before we have offensive linemen in RL.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"which 2?
higham was anonymous........Monaghan had a stormer, and Moore turned the game when he came on.
Roby was average,
so i assume you mean Moore and Monaghan'"
roby and monaghan arent arguably the best hookers in the comp, they ARE the best two hookers.
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| Quote ="St Carlos"roby and monaghan arent arguably the best hookers in the comp, they ARE the best two hookers.'"
I think Thomas Leuluai may have a say in that.
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| Quote ="pie eater and proud of it""St Carlos" wrote
Leuluai isn't bad but I'm not
Sure he's as Good as monas or roby!
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| What world cup winning new zealand international, Thomas Leuleuai?
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| Quote ="Enicomb"What world cup winning new zealand international, Thomas Leuleuai?'"
by the same token Ricky Bibey is a class forward ?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"by the same token Ricky Bibey is a class forward ?'"
Didn't know Bibey had won a World Cup, Grand Final and Harry Sunderland award
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| Top 2 Hookers by a margin Monas and Roby
then Tommy L and Robinson
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Leuleuai is not a hooker for me and never has been, he's a scrum half and i'd go as far to say if Piggy was still at Wigan you'd be top of the league right now, that's how much of a hooker Tommy isn't.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"by the same token Ricky Bibey is a class forward ?'"
Worst attempt at a comparison/analogy ever?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Worst attempt at a comparison/analogy ever?
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It's used a lot i hear
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Top 2 Hookers by a margin Monas and Roby
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Leuleuai is not a hooker for me and never has been, he's a scrum half and i'd go as far to say if Piggy was still at Wigan you'd be top of the league right now, that's how much of a hooker Tommy isn't.'"
Strangely enough I agree!
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Top 2 Hookers by a margin Monas and Roby
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Leuleuai is not a hooker for me and never has been, he's a scrum half and i'd go as far to say if Piggy was still at Wigan you'd be top of the league right now, that's how much of a hooker Tommy isn't.'"
the only reason we arent top of the league is because we havent played our game in hand yet
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| Quote ="lothlorian"the only reason we arent top of the league is because we havent played our game in hand yet
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When we beat you it won't matter
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Top 2 Hookers by a margin Monas and Roby
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Leuleuai is not a hooker for me and never has been, he's a scrum half and i'd go as far to say if Piggy was still at Wigan you'd be top of the league right now, that's how much of a hooker Tommy isn't.'"
Agreed - Tommy L probably has more versaitility but Monas and Roby are more effective at 9 at the moment.
Stop Monas or Roby and you go a long way to beating both Warrington and St.Helens and thats why the Wigan team dominated the derby game last Friday by battering the Saints forwards and not allowing Roby any real go forward.
Awesome game last night and i can't wait for the forward battle between Wigan and Warrington in the cup.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"When we beat you it won't matter
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could well be the case. i wouldnt like to call it. unless your drops out in the playoffs i cant see anything but a wigan v wire GF
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| Quote ="Deano G"Another intelligent contribution from a Dire fan.
I'm not bitter, actually I'm very happy this morning, looking forward to the Big One and while I'm nervous about predicting a Wigan win (Hudds are a very powerful side and would have beaten Saints and Wire based on last night's evidence) I will make two predictions - we'll see some very strong and well organised defence from both sides today and there will be a properly big crowd. (Anyone else laugh when Eddie referred last night to the "massive crowd"?)
If we can win today - a big, big test - then we will deservedly be favourites for the SL title and indeed the cup. We will be running into form as the season reaches a crucial phase. Hock's back, Fielden will be back shortly, this is an exciting time to be a fan of the game's greatest club.
So not bitter at all. My team are champions and we have every chance of retaining the SL title and bringing the CC back home. Wigan fans have been dreaming of this for a decade (and fans of other clubs fearing it for a decade). We are back. I'm very happy!
Bring it on Hudds!'"
Cool
Going to sit back and enjoy this one knowing we did our job last night.
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| Quote ="Warrior-Lou"HKR haven't won away all season, we put 40 on them, so its not really hard.
I don't think that was their best performance. Their best 80 was probably Good Friday like SaintsFan said.
I'm probably just confusing tiring with cocky, either way, neither of those is a good attribute to have on round 19. You can and will most likely slip up again this year though, so you best hope Wire drop the cocky attitude'"
Your right they haven't won away in the league all season.
But we was playing them at Craven Park where they had only lost to Hudds, Wigan and Catalan, their defeat to us last Sunday was their biggest home loss of them all.
HTH
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| jesus credit the saints comeback, but credit the wire attitude in coming back again and holding on
a few years ago we'd never have won that, shows the grit and determination of our team. was a fantastic match to watch even if i was nervous all the way through!
mustve been a top match for the neutral!
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| Quote ="Deano G"Anyone still think Wire are world beaters after tonight?
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I don't think anybody thinks they are 'world beaters', but its obvious they are a threat to our title, they have played some great rugby this year and are well coached and in a strong position. We can beat them, they have been beaten already this term, but its going to take a massive effort from our lads, I'm sure we are up to it, but its going to be hard !!
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| Take Monaghan and Briers out of the game and Wire wont be difficult to beat
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| Quote ="[Gareth"Take Monaghan and Briers out of the game and Wire wont be difficult to beat'"
Easier said, than done.
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Easier said, than done.'"
well duh
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