Is this 'choking' comment meant to be a wind up? The top points scorer for 3 of the last 4 seasons and who had just kicked a penalty to level the scores moments before a 'choker'. Really? You need to try harder mate.

As is your blatant ignorance of basic grammar.

Stabbing in the dark (and still being wrong) is really your thing isn't it shag. Dedication.

it remains to be seen but i have a sneaky feeling maguire will be back for the next game, if not well while i don't wish a serious injury on him,but it bloody well serves him right.

What a game that was for the Neutral;.

What i thought the difference was tonight was experiance in this type of game.

Wigan havent won many big big games in play off rugby in recent times.

Leeds are pst masters of it in recent years, Sinfeild knows how to kick big goals from the touchline under all kinds of pressure, Richards i think bottled it abit.

he has had a big big season and fully deserves and accolades he gets at the end of it as maybe a possible man of steal?

some big plays from Leeds tonight won them the game. McGuire was the difference tonight, the tackle on Richards in the corner which might be the best tackle of the season from the games i have seen anyway.

the support play for his try a crucial try.

his off the ball tackle on Carmont which probably denied a try to win it from Wigan.

Now i have seen a few comments on that topic and wishes of a broken leg on McGuire from 1 person which is frankly disgusting.

now a serious question.

Turn that inncedent round. you were winning by a point with a minute left. Leeds have a potential 2 on 1 down a side. would you want your player to take out the Leeds player saving you the game?? i think if it was reversed you would be happy for your player to take out the Leeds player to save the game.

Big match experiance got Leeds through in the end and Danny McGuire who was different class all game

The game can not be played with that attitude and survive IMO. Moments likes Saints "Wide to West" finish would never happen. We won a game v Bradford a few years ago with a similar break down the left wing from Renouf for Radlinski to score. Were Bradford slagged off for NOT committing a professional foul to win the match? Did it even enter anyone's head that they should have done so?

People really do need to get grip of that they are suggesting here is an acceptable way to play the game.

Dave

All i am saying is if the roles were reversed i doubt one of your players would have any hesitation in taking out an opposition player.

There are plenty of examples of players not doing that so I don't think that is necessarily true. If you are correct and it's to be expected then we may as well give up.

Dave

I find myself agreeing 110% with DaveO.

Expect hell to freeze over

As annoyed as I was at the time, I cant help but realise that were it Donald breaking down the wing with someone screaming up in support, I'd want one of our players to risk the sin bin for the foul to stop a certain 4 and the match.

I don't like to see blatant 'cheating' rewarded either, but all players cheat at some point in most games in some way or other. The whole PTB nowadays at every tackle is all about holding the attacking player until the very last second before the ref will penalise you. That for some people is not in the spirit of the game.

I do hope when people calm down they think again about being glad McGuire is injured. Never mind the RL side of things, that's just a sad way to think.

What's the weather like up there on your horse?

I find all this cheating/penalty talk incredulous as a passive observer. Fact is every team concedes penalties in every game, indeed Joel Tomkins is the most penalised man in SL. Where are the army of troops demanding his removal from the green rectangle for not abiding by the Wigan moral code?

Wigan didn't lose the game because of a 2 second incident. No more than Leeds won it because of a penality given to them for Tomkins kicking out in the tackle. Would they have been right to complain if they lost and he hadn't been sin binned at the least; which the offence warranted?

Again, the piousness on here is sickening. I thought Wigan fans had a little more decorum than is being displayed. Obviously not. In saying that, let's not detract from a superb game, played at an incredible speed in a pretty good spirit. Superb advert for the sport which shouldn't be derailed by one-eyed overly emotional tirades from up in the clouds.

Well done to both sides

You missed out Tomkins kick which should have been a red card!

You missed out the spear tackle, which arguably could also have been a red.

And you could go on all day...........................................................................................

I agree with the posters who think that Mc Guires injury is some kind of poetic justice, i don't like to see anyone injured but the fact it was caused when he commited a foul/offence makes me think 'serves him right' i hope his season is over. it may make him think twice in future..look at it this way, if a criminal gets injured/hurt commiting a crime then everyone here would be saying 'serves him right'.

And you seriously think for one second that your players would not have done exactly the same given the circumstances in hand??



As for agreeing with people wishing a player a serious injury you are a disgrace



As much as I dislike certain players in RL as I am sure we all do it is simply wrong to wish injury upon anyone who plays the game.

Oh and you'll also be pleased to know it looks like the injury is simply a sprain and he should be ok................feel free not to cheer him in the tri nations tho

Dave o thats a lovely little story I almost had a tear in my eye and then I smelt some coffee and remembered you had Ellery Hanley play for you for all those years and despite being the greatest British player of all time was a cheating niggling swine that would have tackled his own mother high and Late if it meant getting an advantage.....

I remember the Wide to West try but I also remember Chris Joynts voluntary tackle too. surely thats cheating and not an acceptable way to play the game....??

I think your forgetting things just to make your argument stand up and it doesnt.....

I'd rather see mcguires Illegal tackle and for it to correctly go punished, than see someone take kicks at a bloke on the ground and for that to not get punished correctly.

wouldnt you?

What are you on about? McGuire wasn't penalised for holding back, Tomkins was penalised for the kick and it ultimately cost us the game.

Did anyone seriously ever believe that he really was injured?


This subject is getting very old & boring now.
For me that incident was very clear - Had Danny McCheat not intervened, we would have been under the sticks for 6-points.
Simples!
However.................I wouldnt deny for one second that what he did would most likely have been replicated by any other player in that same situation.
Won the Whino's a week off, and a home tie in the Semi's. End of.
I didnt see how he could have injured himself, and Uncle Festers comments on Sky later on were bang out of order.
I personally think Danny-Boy played the 'soccer' card.
I've cheated, and now i'll roll-over and play dead like i'm the victim.
He must have known that incident would warrant a straight red card, had it been seen by the officials (which it wasnt).
His actions won the Whino's the match, took him out of a heated situation (by feigning injury), and also saved him from a potential ban in the play-off's.
Not nice -- But very, very savvy.
Something our own players (JT in particular) clearly lack.
I dont like Danny Maguire -- As other fans dont like our own Sam T.
But he did what he had to do, and got away with it.
Wish we could all just move on now..........

Why would it warrant a red card? Did you consult your Sky commentators "guide to the rules" for that?

Mcguire Should have been penalised and Tomkins should have been sent from the field of play....
thats why I said Id rather see a "holding back" and have it punished than seeing Tomkins Stay on the pitch for what he did a simple penalty isnt good enough Ganson would have had him off double quick.

sorry if it wasnt clear Ive had to sift through some nonesense on this forum today.

I havent re-watched the game and Alibert bless him didnt have a clue, and I still dont know what penalty was given and whether it was taken from the correct spot..... he's the worst ref by some distance but to be fair he's been good to you...

I agree with you there, if it was Ganson he would of had no hesitation in sending Joel off



Your right about Alibert too, at times he is so indecisive and it was good work by the linesman in the last minute to sort the situation out. What is interesting is that all the games we have lost this season Bentham has either been the ref or the video ref



In all seriousness tho Bentham he was the one who told Alibert about the penalty of Donald taking out Richards, just a shame he didnt realise the penalty should have been where the ball landed.

My opinion on what i consider to be old news.
And you need to find some better bait ........

Only it shouldn't have been a penalty for that. Donald had to make that play, irrespective of seconds on the clock or men aorund him. At real-time speed it was a legitimate tackle. That Bentham or the touchie failed to recognise that has been completely smokescreened in this potty debate.