Agreed he has been fantastic. Has always been solid in defence but seems to offer a lot more going forward now which he has not always done before.

Gareth Hock is an outstanding player no doubt about that. He does try to make some offloads in impossible situations though at times but I guess if it comes off for him people will say it was the correct move and if it doesn't people will say he should have kept hold.

Gaz Hock can be the best backrower in the league on his day but he just needs to find that day a little more often. He's getting there in consistancy terms where nowadays i'd say he finds it probably 3 games in 5 where before it would have probably been more around the 1 to 2 games in 5 mark.

He's almost unplayable when he preforms as he did yesterday and as i've said in the past is our best player on that form.

Hock on that form is easily the best back rower in SL and one of the best in the world IMO.

He's devastating.

The great Mick Gregory said about Hock. if put on 2 stone he would kill somebody.

The guy is an animal on that form and you can see were Gregory was coming from.

It's a tough thing to look back on but you can't help but wonder sometimes where the club may be now if Greg was still with us.

His guidance towards the likes of Hock and O'Loughlin and towards guys thats left like Brown and Robinson would have had those players careers onto another level imo.

I think he is creative enough to play loose forward that ball to Paat for Carmonts try on Saturday is a good example.

Over the course of the season so far O'Loughlin has consistantly been our best player and has really stepped up his attacking game as well as continuing to give us his ever awesome defence.

A dead cert for a starting england shirt in the 4 nations and is probably the best 13 in the league at the moment on form.

Back on topic and back to Hock. Hes been fantastic. Awesome destructive ball runner and theres a few around of his kind. Brilliant asset to the side and lets hope he continues to keep the brain farts to a minimum.

Lockers is without doubt the best 13 in the league. His form this year has been excellent and consistant which is more then can be said of most of his teamates.

It's funny how people including me where saying he should be moved to second row this year and he seems to have hit back at those claims by taking his game on another level. He's running, passing and creating for others.

In a strange way i think Barrett leaving has brought him on abit but he's had to take more on his shoulders.

IMO losing greg knocked the club back 5-6 years..we were going places under him.and when he needed to give it up the club lost its leader.

The players would have run through a brick wall for him.we have not had that since.

Never a truer word said in my opinion.

Hock could play 13,you dont have to be a half type player to play 13,look at australia who play paul gallen at 13.

Agreed Lockers attack has really improved pass to Ainscough at wakey the other week was another example. Our best player IMO

Thats correct, he was a legend, we would of deffo won trophies under him.

o loughlin had a v good game,a massive improvement from him this year,hes putting the tackles in on his own which are tough tackles,last season he just seemed to be third man in all the time and give stupid penalties away.

Hock is top class.

Would you swap him for wilkin?

Not in a million years.

No, the only GB or SL backrower id swap him for is Ellis

sorry i shouldn't laugh at a genuine question

Hmm??



Devastating runner for a whinging Tart?

Keep him

Haha Wlikin, average player in a good team.

I think his improved attacking form is something to do with the weight (muscle) hes lost the season. Im pretty sure he was a Stand Off when he was just starting the 1st team. I think too much bulking up limited his attack and speed. He seems just right now for a Loose imo

I personally wouldn't swap him for Ellis either because both are totally different styles of backrower.

We have players(Bailey and Hansen) similar to Ellis(but not as good) but nobdoy like Hock.

i rate wilkin highly but he isnt better than hock and neither is ellis.

You think I was serious?

Lmao! Wilkin is not in same league as hock.

Hock is all power, aggresion, skill and wilkin is a pretty boy poser

Being saints fan i did think you was serious.

but i applaud you for being honest and not wearing redvee tinted glasses

The only thing I'd tweak about Hock's game is his offload timings, other than that, I wouldn't have him any other way regardless of the penalties he may give away.

His aggressive, free-style type of play is unpredictable and often off-the-cuff, I wouldn't want to change that in the slightest.