I've watched this stale brand of RL for too long now . It's awful . Just how far has the game of RL gone backwards since the glorious 1985 final . Congratulations to Hull today , had we nicked it at the end it would have been an injustice.

Said exactly this to a Wigan fan coming back on the tube.

Like Wane said WE DO NOT NEED A KICKER.

were we the best team? No....did we deserve to win? No......should we have won? Yes, that decision was terrible and cost us the game

What would you give for a frano bottica now

Marshall had his foot on the line, so you shouldn't have even had the field possession, never mind the ball to get up that end to score. As for Fonuas disallowed try, personally don't see how that was not given due to obstruction.

The obstruction was soft but Griffin didnt have to run into the defender he should have controlled the run.
Blew a try for Hull in my opinion

Did he say tat today?, i turned over once it was over

We were awful. MM, ST, GW did NOTHING. Fact is, our best player by some considerable distance is almost 35 yrs old. I'm sure the usual suspects will be on here, head in the sand, saying we are disloyal and the U19s are brilliant yadda yadda yadda. Wane out, and take those three with him.

Is Sam Tomkins even worth keeping around anymore?
Obviously haven't seen him play much but he's definitely not the player he was before he left for go NRL. wasn't concerned about none of your players today barring Williams.

Our reserve-reserve winger had a mare, we had two disallowed tries and were still 4 points off winning the cup. It's not the 80s anymore, sometimes we lose.

You had two disallowed tries, one was certainly correct the Clubb one was probably the correct decision too. Hull also had a try chalked off which could have easily been given.
Thought Tomkins was non existent for you today but SOL looked good moving the ball about.

I have no complaints about Hull being the better side but how people can say the Clubb one was no try is baffling. He was being held by 3 men and had the ball reefed out and even if he didn't have it reefed out there was a clear hand on it by the Hull defender and it came out. That is a penalty. There is no debate about it, it just is. That's the rules and in that circumstance in that position it is an 8 point try and at 18-10 down was a very crucial and incorrect decision by the Yorkshire video ref.

And to add, look at the defenders hand. His wrist is goose necked like an anchor to reef it out and it doesn't change shape as he takes the ball out. It was the wrong call and you know it. Anyone blessed with the gift of sight knows it.

Anyone else heard that Wane is stepping down at season end ??

There's something wrong with our game when the BBC news gives more time to the woman's RU world cup than it does to the C C final.

Hope so and hope that TL is not in the training team.

I wouldn't worry. The last 2 years by the BBC and Sky have been told to push women's sport apparently. They report on womens football every morning on the BBC about how such a person has been transferred to such a team but the truth is no body gives a toss but they think people do. There was a match last season between 1st and 2nd in the league and they built it up like it was gonna be a big game. It finished 10-0. Joke broadcasters.

ITV News did not even mention it at all

Firstly congratulations to Hull, on reflection a deserved victory.

I thought we started the game well and we're in control. That changed when Farrell gave away a stupid penalty by not getting up to play the ball. From that point Hull for the most part were the better side though I don't think by as larger margin as some are suggesting.

Wane is right when he said the difference was the last tackle plays, unlike some I like TL but we need a #7 with a better boot as our kicking game was poor, theirs by contrast was excellent. We were in the game until the final whistle and with a little luck would have pinched it.

The Clubb no try was a farce, one camera angle clearly showed the ball stripped and then Clubb grounded it. Terrible decision by Child however this is where the rules are wrong. I believe the only reason the try was disallowed was this nonsense about having conclusive evidence to overturn the on field decision and that is what put Child in 2 minds. IMO the refs call should only count if the VR cannot make a decision as the replay is inconclusive.

I find our team incredibly frustrating, they are obviously capeable but are too cautious. When we move the ball we cause problems but don't do it frequently enough.

Last word for Marshall, the criticism is unfair imo, an hour before kick off he was ready to watch the game from the stands, for a kid then to be thrown into a cup final in those circumstances must have been incredibly difficult, Talanoa is far bigger and always likely to be able to out jump him, the fault there lies with the lack of pressure on the kicker not with Marshall.

ATEOTD we conceded three tries in a cup final, two from last play kicks and one from a pass which went to ground, we scored three and had a fair try chalked off. That's far from a disaster.

Agree. Your player clearly had his foot over the dead ball line before the set your scored off in the second half.

You don't understand the eight point try rule mate. An eight point try is awarded when a foul in the act of scoring (eg high tackle on the try scorer, sliding in feet first into the try scorer etc) totally irrelevant to this situation. It's either a normal try, or a knock on.

For me the call was correct. They have a right to try to stop him grounding the ball, it's up to him to keep a tight hold. If there was a clear rip on the ball then that is different, but there wasn't. As you correctly say, he was just wrapping his hand round the ball to prevent a try

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You are correct on the 8 point try bit but there was a clear rip on the ball, even Radford said it should have been a try. If that was sent up as a try or the stupid rule about the ref having to make a call didn't exist it would have been given.

There wasn't even a pull at the ball. Carlos did what any player would, and should, do in that situation. He covered the ball. The reason the ball came loose is because Clubb tried to pull his arm free to ground the ball. In that instance it is up to Clubb to have better control over the ball. The fact he didn't deemed it as a loose carry.
And as mentioned by others, Wigan should never have been in that position to score the try anyway due to Marshall's foot been on the line.
Fonua's 3rd try been chalked off was a joke. Gildarr firstly makes a poor read in defence but then he even managed to be to Shaul and make at attempt at a tackle so I'm not sure how they can class it as obstruction if the man actually got to the ball carrier and laid hands on him.

Listening to the narrative of the video referee it was clear to me that he saw no pull on the ball at any point. He looked carefully at the angles available to him, all the time looking for a pull. On each angle he said he could not see a pull. Given that, it's hard to agree with the assertion that in this case the call of the onfield referee was critical. But I agree that in many instances the live decision does appear to influence the decision too heavily.

Every single professional and ex-professional in the studio, on commentary and your own coach said that it was definitely a ball strip and should have been awarded. That's a good endorsement, as they have a better understanding of the defensive and offensive instincts in that situation than most officials do.

As for Fonua's disallowed try, it was a clear obstruction. It wasn't down to a poor read by Gildart, he was obstructed. And while he did manage to get to Shaul and attempt a tackle, that doesn't mean the fact he was obstructed doesn't matter. Had he not been obstructed then Gildart would have got to the ball carrier quicker. That in turn could have allowed him to prevent the try. It was a pretty straightforward call even in real time.