Cuthbertson for MOS.
The difference between Leeds finishing 6th last year and top of the pile almost all season this season.

Williams YPOY.

Burgess is excellent but been forgotten with his injury.
Currie, don't know how he got selected. Percival should have had that nomination.

Walmsley and Burgess for me.

Walmsley and Williams for me

Culbertson is a class act but if i had to pick one between him and Walmsley for Wigan, i would pick Walmlsey every single day of the week

How Roby hasn't been nominated I will never know. I think people have become desensitised to his contribution.

It's a close one for MOS, but I'd say Williams has burst onto the scene this year and has a massive future if he keeps his head on straight.

I agree with this. Hence the hysteria around whoever is the latest Sky/Media obsession. We don't seem to support our best players as the Aussies do. How Roby got overlooked in favour of Clark last year is a case in point. What's happened to him this year?

Meanwhile Roby gets overlooked again whilst the latest obsession gets picked.

Picking the full back from the top team is like picking a football goalie in this instance. I mean Hardakers apologists always argue that his better defence is more important than Sams far greater attacking threat. It's a bit like Wiggys laughable assertion that Wellens was better than Billy Slater.

Hardaker is hardly fit to be ranked with the likes of Tomkins, Farrell, Graham, Peacock, Sculthorpe, Lyon etc. actually my biggest surprise is that they haven't contrived to give it to Sinfield!

My hope is that he gets picked over Sam against NZ and gets found out. Then the media can move on to their next obsession.

Stats (apart from making mountains if tackles) would say Roby isn't as effective as once was. He's not scoring as many try's, making as many metres or as many breaks but he receives an awful lot of hype from the sky team.

Top player, always has been but he's rightfully not been nominated ahead of the three players selected because they've all had better seasons IMO.

Roby shall take over Sinfield's crown as Eddie and Stevo's head boy once he's retired to Union.

It may just be me, but I don't think Roby has looked anything like as threating as previous years. Sure, he's a tackling machine, with crisp distribution, but he's not the most creative DH, and as his workload has increased he's become less dangerous with the ball. He's still a superb player, and I think the Fages signing may see Roby become more of an attacking threat again.

You should tell the other SL players they got it wrong.

I'm another who doesn't rate Hardaker as highly as others. He is a very good player, but don't rate him as the best player in the league (not yet anyway, he's still quite young). Sorry but I don't see how 10 tries and 6 assists from FULL BACK make him a cadidate for MOS?
Yes he is fantastic defensively, but I'd have though he would have to do more than that in attack to win MOS. He has no kicking game and a not amazing passing game. His running game and defense is very good though.

I think the other two deserve it more, but probably Walmsley should win it. He has made a ridiculous number of metres this year.

Just like they got it wrong last year mate. Or do you disagree?

Hardaker's passing game is the weakest area of his game, but I don't buy into the argument that he's not that good in attack. In fact, he's one of the best players in broken field, and kick returners in the competition.

No one on here is denying that Hardaker isn't effective and that he hasn't had a good season. But I think the MoS award should go to the best player in the competition.

Now, as a Wigan fan I'm really not that bothered that Roby is overlooked again. But it beggars belief that the players could think Clark was better than him last season and that he isn't even shortlisted this.

Just to prove my even handedness, I'll give you another example when the MoS made no sense. When Pat Richards won it, Lockers and Sam had demonstrably better seasons, Pat kicked the goals and finished the tries, but to suggest he was the best player was nonsense.

I don't really have a problem with Clark winning last year, he had a great season. I'd have had no problem with any of the other 3 nominees winning it either. Actually, I think I only really can remember disagreeing with Farrell winning it in 2004, and Hodgson winning it in 2009.

Who's to say for sure who the best player in the competition is over the course of a season? Clearly some people do think Hardaker has been the best player in SL, but then again, just as many probably don't. These things are subjective.

I'm still confused by James Roby winning it in 2007 when Trent Barrett near enough single handedly carried us all year long.

I'm glad we agree Charlie because you seemed to be suggesting that because the players had chosen Zak there was no room for debate.

Hardaker prevented two nailed on tries again tonight (one in each half)...leeds then win the LLS by virtue of a 4pt win.

The *only* reason you can think Hardaker is overrated is because you don't like him (and/or the team he plays for)

So you actually want England to do badly to proove you're right...wow!

Also haven't two Wigan full backs been man of steel in recent years?

Hardaker's "apologists" will argue that his defence is crucial.....because defence is just as crucial as attack.

Too many RL fans on here don't appreciate defence.

Since 2000 the only Wigan players to win it are Farrell at LF, Richards on the Wing and Tomkins at FB, so...

FWIW I think Hardaker is the leagues best full back, but I also don't think he's up against stiff competition either. Rightly so he's up for Man Of Steel. I'd agree with all the contenders but I'd like it to be expanded to include at least Luke Gale who's been really great this season.

Ah OK, couldn't remember if Richards was on the wing or FB that year...still bit much to suggest (appreciate it wasn't you) Hardaker shouldn't be man of steel because he's a FB when Wigan have had a FB and winger win in recent years

Hate cas but Luke Gale has orchestrated everything they have done this season and also should picked ahead of Smith for England.

Farrell won it at prop in 2004 didn't he?

Gale was good again tonight. He should be in the squad ahead of Smith I agree but at the moment I'd probably edge for Widdop and Tomkins in the halves with Hardaker at fullback.

Williams won YPOTY. Congrats lad.