I'm very surprised by this Rogues as i cant recall anyone being made aware of these changes?

Judging by the tone of your response i guess that you were too

I can recall an instance last season that we wanted to dual reg Kylie Leuluai with Hunslet and he wasn't allowed to due to red tape regarding his visa

Gary Hetherington called it red tape bureaucracy at the time and that it was an issue that needed changing urgently

I really don't believe that Gelling has had a fair crack at the whip at Wigan.

We have lamented about how players play poorly when not played in the correct position and have allowed them this excuse yet with Gelling it does not seem to be the case.

Gelling is quite clearly a centre (right centre)/back rower and I think it's as plain as day to see. I'm not a coach never have been and never will be but to me this is obvious. Playing him on the wing in 2012 was square pegs in round holes in my opinion but he made a decent job of it for a centre/backrower. I did see the merits in at the time as Gelling could be classed as a project signing so to give him some game time giving him the wing spot was sensible.

Goulding is currently out of form and has struggled with injury so far this year. We all know what Darrell can do and this is why I think he should play on Good Friday but I do think after that we should look at playing Gelling there for a run of games or certainly for the Bradford game on Easter Monday. I was shocked that Gelling didn't figure in the cup match Vs Dewsbury to be honest.

Thornley did play well in the Challenge Cup Final and he was reasonably good in the play-offs but I do think Thornley's performances on the whole have been distinctly average if not sub-par yet Waney has stuck with him. This makes me surprised that Gelling hasn't had more chances unless he has been suffering with some unpublicised injuries.

The system has never helped his development. He needed a run a season or two ago to cement him in a position but we could not accomodate it. I am always impressed by his handling and ability to take on the line. For his own sake he needs enough of a run out to allow for a decision to be made on his future. I really think that we need a big wide running second row to offer us something diffrent out wide.

Pretty smug post that ShortArse. Gelling played really well today up against the Championship Champions - QLT, Misi Taulapapa, Menzies Yere, Pat Walker, Dominic Brambani and the USA World Cup player who's name I can't spell.
So why put him and Town and the Championship down with your cheap remark.

He played centre today and had 2 and 3 men on him each time he got the ball but our winger outside him had more runs today than he and other wingers have had all season. If Wigan don't know where to play him we'll have him to play centre every week.

We were similarly unhappy last season as Gelling like Leuluai was unable to go out on DR or loan and so could play in our first team or nowhere. I can only imagine that some behind the scenes discussion has been going on since to get this rule change made. Although Wigan and Leeds were the only ones I can remember publicly stating they were unhappy with it I am sure other clubs and players will have been affected too.

The rule change was mentioned by Kris Radlinski in this week's programme but there had been no mention of it being discussed or being possible previously so that is probably why it surprised most people. Radlinski said that it had changed in the past week. IIRC Shaun Wane also mentioned it briefly on BBC Radio Manchester on Thursday. It's odd that it hasn't been publicised in the way that other rule changes are though.

Great news that he can now go out on dual reg. I'm a big fan of Gelling when he plays centre, it's a big shout but I think he would prove to be the best centre at the club if he got a decent run of games

Its not an RFL rule change, there are new UK Border Agency visa regulations in place effective from beginning of April. Previously, overseas players on Tier 2 visas were only allowed to play for their main employer, therefore couldn't be DR'd but the new immigration laws mean that they can now be eligible for DR under certain circumstances.

Are there any Rumanian Rugby Players who we could sign to take advantage of this new loophole, Wigan probably would not need to pay for their flights over, they are more than likely already in this country.

The reviewers on the Workington website cannot praise him enough. He really needs a run of games though.

Quote ="Levrier"The reviewers on the Workington website cannot praise him enough. He really needs a run of games though.'" Judge for yourselves on all four Wigan lads. Highlights of the game v Sheffield :- https://m.youtube.co...h?v=mGC6MMl7fBM

Quote ="Levrier"The reviewers on the Workington website cannot praise him enough. He really needs a run of games though.'" Judge for yourselves on all four Wigan lads. Highlights of the game v Sheffield :- https://m.youtube.co...h?v=mGC6MMl7fBM

so how did gelling do today ?

Wasn't playing for Town today.

So what does that tell us about Mondays team?

we have 3 injured to replace

Team for Monday

Bowen
Manfredi
Goulding
Sarginson
Burgess
Green
Smith
Taylor
Williams
James
Clubb
Hughes
Crosby

Gelling (back row)
C. Farrell
Dudson
Powell

I'd rest McIlroum, Faz, Lockers and Bateman, bring them back in the cup game.

Think that side could still get the job done against Bradford but the cup is more important.

I would expect Powell, Hampshire, Dudson, Hughes, Crosby, Gelling and maybe Connor Farrell to play on Monday.

Monday looks like an opportunity to hand a few chances out but we don't want to go too far because Bradford have an upset in them imo.

I'd look to rest Bowen, Burgess and Lockers on top of the lads that look likely to miss out through injury and go-

Hampshire
Manfredi
Goulding
Gelling
Sarginson
Green
Smith
Clubb
McIlorum
Crosby
Hughes
Farrell
Bateman

subs
Dudson
Taylor
C Farrell
Williams

Taylor deserves a rest, then maybe Clubb next week

FB 32 Hampshire
RW 23 Sarginson (would have preffered Manfredi to get a run though)
RC 3 Goulding (would have rested him and played Sarginson here if Manfredi had been in the 19)
LC 5 Gelling
LW 32 Burgess
SO 19 Powell
SH 7 Smith
P 24 Clubb
H 9 McIlorum (get him off for Williams if/when we get 20 in front)
P 16 Dudson
SR 14 Hughes
SR 12 L.Farrell
LF 25 Bateman

S 27 Williams
S 28 James
S 36 C.Farrell
S 37 Sutton

Edit: forgot L.Farrell had a week off v London

Bowen
Sarginson
Gelling
Bateman
Burgess
Powell
Smith
Flower
McLlorum
Dudson
Farrell (had a rest Vs London)
Hughes
O'Loughlin

Taylor
Clubb
C Farrell
Hampshire (On at HB and push Smith/Powell to 9)

Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"Bowen Sarginson Gelling Bateman Burgess Powell Smith Flower McLlorum Dudson Farrell (had a rest Vs London) Hughes O'Loughlin Taylor Clubb C Farrell Hampshire (On at HB and push Smith/Powell to 9)'" Bowen isn't in the squad and Flower was injured on Friday www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news

Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"Bowen Sarginson Gelling Bateman Burgess Powell Smith Flower McLlorum Dudson Farrell (had a rest Vs London) Hughes O'Loughlin Taylor Clubb C Farrell Hampshire (On at HB and push Smith/Powell to 9)'" Bowen isn't in the squad and Flower was injured on Friday www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news

Hampshire at 1 then, Taylor to start and Sutton and Williams on the bench.

Seems that Murphy is doing well at championship level but it is strange to see Tierney at stand off. It will be useful to see Gelling get a run out.

Maybe Tierney is trying to shape a career for himself at halfback which is something his dad could not do (Jason Robinson), Wigan signed Jason from Hunslet Hawkes as an halfback and he ripped teams to pieces at A team level.
When Jason got into the first team it was at halfback and he was such an unstructured player he just did not fit in there, that is when he moved to the wing.

One interesting thing I found in looking this up is that Wigan where not Jasons only professional club ,I always thought he came straight from Hunslet Parkside a junior club) but it seems that he signed for Hunslet Hawkes on a semi professional basis. I think I will be advised on the validity of that by other posters if I am wrong.

Well I read his book and I don't remember reading anything like that. From memory it was Wigan's Yorkshire scout who found him and certainly he was only a young kid when he came to us.

Taken from Wiki ?.

"born 30 July 1974 in Leeds, West Yorkshire, Robinson began playing rugby as a child at the Hunslet Boys Club and then Hunslet Parkside before starting his rugby league career in 1991 at semi-professional side Hunslet Hawks"

I am like you SW, I always thought that he came from Hunslet Park Side but when I read the bit from Wiki I put it up on here knowing that it would be questioned.