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| That was anything but a captain's knock from Kevin Sinfield. I thought he was surly, petulant and generally ineffective. He reminded me a lot of Gary Schofield whenever his Leeds team was on the end of a Wigan good hiding.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"First game he hasn't scored a point since when?'"
Bradford a couple of week ago...
Sinfield is a top quality club player, but he's played almost every minute of every game (cup, league and international) over the last two seasons, and it looks it. Completely unnecessary and bad management.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Bradford a couple of week ago...
Sinfield is a top quality club player, but he's played almost every minute of every game (cup, league and international) over the last two seasons, and it looks it. Completely unnecessary and bad management.'"
Possibly it is bad management, but I suspect it's not so much a case of McDermot overusing his skipper as it is McDermot and his skipper not even being on the same page.
My personal view is that Leeds are an ageing team and an overrated team (take a bow, Eddie and Stevo), but I also think they are a lot better than we saw tonight. Something is definitely rotten in the state of Headingley.
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| This gives McNamara food for thought, if he is capable of thought. Last season he completely over-reacted on the basis of Leeds' late run and picked every available Leeds player in his tri-nations squad - Hall, McGuire, Ablett, BJB, Peacock, Sinfield, JJB, Bailey, presumably Burrow and Watkins would have been in if not injured. Dropping them all would surely see his selection policy discredited but he seems to be totally fire proof.
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| Good thread
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Good thread'"
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| Quote ="EFCWARRIOR"ouch
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It's all good banter but you don't achieve what sinfield has by being average
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| he was sublime tonight...kicked you to death.... its nice to see that even in defeat, you wigan fans can dedicate a thread to him.
hats off to you.
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| He was superb tonight , and Leeds deserved the victory
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| nice thread...the guy was good tonight.
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| finch?
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| Quote ="Royston-Vasey"finch?
who's he?'"
He wants to be Austrailia's answer to Eddie Hemmings
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| Sinfield is a good kicker and a good thinker that's all. He was given far too much space by Wigan on the 5th tackle and must of thought he was at a training session at times. It should of been part of wigans tactics to ensure he did not get any time on the ball to get a decent kick in once it was known mcguire wasnt playing but instead we stood back and gave him all the time in the world.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Sinfield is a good kicker and a good thinker that's all. He was given far too much space by Wigan on the 5th tackle and must of thought he was at a training session at times. It should of been part of wigans tactics to ensure he did not get any time on the ball to get a decent kick in once it was known mcguire wasnt playing but instead we stood back and gave him all the time in the world.'"
How magnaminous of you.
You are just a poor poor loser.
You wouldn't have been in the game if it wasn't for deadwood giving you the benefit of some very poor decisions.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Sinfield is a good kicker and a good thinker that's all.Quote '" '"
Thats fairly handy at rugby league IMO, Let's be fair he murdered you,
and it really goes against the grain to say anything good about Leeds
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| Dear Wigan
Great Club Call
"You picked the wrong team, You picked the wrong team, Just like the Wire you picked the wrong team"
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| Quote ="tikkabulls"Thats fairly handy at rugby league IMO, Let's be fair he murdered you,
and it really goes against the grain to say anything good about Leeds'"
Think your clutching at straws old boy. I admit he murdered us but if you let a kicker of the calibre of sinfield have so much space and time then your asking for trouble. Leeds deserved their win, we were very poor tactically. End of chà t.
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Dear Wigan
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"You picked the wrong team, You picked the wrong team, Just like the Wire you picked the wrong team"'"
I don't think we did. Had we picked wire I think we would of lost by a bigger margin rather than a penalty deciding the outcome. I rate wire as a much better team than Leeds as the CC final proved.
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Dear Wigan
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"You picked the wrong team, You picked the wrong team, Just like the Wire you picked the wrong team"'"
We almost certainly picked the right team, Wigan just weren't good enough and based on the form leading into the playoffs you'd have to say that Wigan weren't likely to be good enough to beat any of the other three semi finalists.
Wire would have beaten us easily. Instead we played terribly for most of the game against Leeds and lost by a single point, which suggests they were beatable, but Wigan just weren't good enough to do that.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"We almost certainly picked the right team, Wigan just weren't good enough and based on the form leading into the playoffs you'd have to say that Wigan weren't likely to be good enough to beat any of the other three semi finalists.
Wire would have beaten us easily. Instead we played terribly for most of the game against Leeds and lost by a single point, which suggests they were beatable, but Wigan just weren't good enough to do that.'"
That's the way I see it. The difference was a penalty 2 mins from the end. We were utter rubbish for the first 40 and only started playing something like in the second half. Had we played the same against warrington I reckon we would of been 20+ down at HT. Leeds only try came from a stupid pass from us so it was definitely a game we should of won had we been tactically better and played with more composure. If Leeds are to win next week they will have to improve by 100 Percent because I don't think saints or wire will roll over as easily as we did. We were very disappointing.
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| Oh I don't know. It's ironic that we have a dog as the mascot, because we are the fiddo of finals. Roll over, play dead, drop the ball in goal meli!!!
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"That's the way I see it. The difference was a penalty 2 mins from the end. We were utter rubbish for the first 40 and only started playing something like in the second half. Had we played the same against warrington I reckon we would of been 20+ down at HT. Leeds only try came from a stupid pass from us so it was definitely a game we should of won had we been tactically better and played with more composure. If Leeds are to win next week they will have to improve by 100 Percent because I don't think saints or wire will roll over as easily as we did. We were very disappointing.'"
Wigan played as well as Leeds let them in the first half - the difference in the second half is that Leeds could not sustain the intensity of the first. Wigan did only manage two tries in the second half - one of which came from a very poor decision from Silverwood. The first Wigan try was a brilliant move but that apart they never looked like breaking Leeds down.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Sinfield is a good kicker and a good thinker that's all. He was given far too much space by Wigan on the 5th tackle and must of thought he was at a training session at times. It should of been part of wigans tactics to ensure he did not get any time on the ball to get a decent kick in once it was known mcguire wasnt playing but instead we stood back and gave him all the time in the world.'"
And last night he out thought and out kicked Wigan
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"And last night he out thought and out kicked Wigan'"
And thats were Wigan's tactics wrong if Sam Tomkins was playing last night Leeds would have made sure he was smothered out of the game we gave Sinfield the run of the park he was exptional because he had the space to do it .
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