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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Even though the "RFL are investigating" if you believe some of the media, the precedent has already been set on this when Briers did it to the Southstand in the one play-off game the Dire have won'"
That was one finger he stuck up, he was just letting the South Stand know that he'll be going for a 1 pointer later in the game. Guess what, he won the game for us with a late drop goal, case closed!
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"King made a grovelling apology
All the Wire fans (probably as it was aimed at them) were calling for his head on a stick'"
It makes me giggle when a player gives the crowd some stick.
Matt King was getting dogs abuse of a large proportion of your fans and i would image some of it was a lot worse the sticking the V's up. Yet when it does happen, all of a sudden it becomes a horrendous and vile sin of biblical magnitude.
People need to get a grip and stop being so bloody precious.
I cant blame Lee Smith, Briers, King, Sam and the hundreds of sportsmen who have given moronic fans some attitude.
Judging by some of the ridiculous knicker wetting that is going on, and the sheer nasty bile that this minuscule "indecent" has brought up, i would go as far to say that some fans deserve getting told to Foxtrot Oscar.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"That was one finger he stuck up, he was just letting the South Stand know that he'll be going for a 1 pointer later in the game. Guess what, he won the game for us with a late drop goal, case closed!'"
Aye, the same way Sam was informing the Leeds fans that Lima would be scoring two tries later on. They're treated pretty well these Leeds fans really aren't they?
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| Was looking, to date found nothing on Briers, if i do i'll get back to you.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Was looking, to date found nothing on Briers, if i do i'll get back to you.'"
Don't worry I already know the answer.
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| Briers wouldn't do that surely?
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| Quote ="Dave26"Aye, the same way Sam was informing the Leeds fans that Lima would be scoring two tries later on. They're treated pretty well these Leeds fans really aren't they?'"
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| Quote ="Cruncher"You and I haven't agreed on everything in the past, but can I just say how much I appreciate your new name.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Even though the "RFL are investigating" if you believe some of the media, the precedent has already been set on this when Briers did it to the Southstand in the one play-off game the Dire have won, was picked up by Sky and even mentioned at the time by Eddie. Of course, nothing happened.
You'd think the Dire fans would remember everything about that game wouldn't you, however it seems to have completely passed most of them frothing at the mouth about it, asking for a ban.
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Unsurprisingly, the usual suspects on the Stains Board have forgotten about Kyle Eastmond allegedly gesturing to the stains fans at the Halton Stadium earlier in the season
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| Quote ="Dave26"Briers wouldn't do that surely?'"
Briers was just telling them we would win by one point...
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Briers was just telling them we would win by one point...'"
In that case, Sam was saying it was two easy........ Yes i know, its a pun....
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| Quite a few Wire fans I have spoken to don't think he will get banned as it has happened in the past and not been punished with a ban. Not saying he shouldn't get a ban and neither are they but its harsh to ban Sam when none of the others where banned.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Briers was just telling them we would win by one point...'"
And Sam was telling the Leeds fans Pat was going to try for another two points!!!
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| Let's face it he was silly and with all the Tomkins haters out there wanting blood he could get a ban.
What happened in the past with Briers could mean little as the RFL aren't exactly known for their consistency.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Let's face it he was silly and with all the Tomkins haters out there wanting blood he could get a ban.
What happened in the past with Briers could mean little as the RFL aren't exactly known for their consistency.'"
Agree with that and it was incredibly stupid, we cant defend him for what he did. I do think there has been a massive over exaggeration with this though, but that's to be expected when its Tomkins. But is has happened many times in the past and all those went unpunished.
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| course it can be defended. You push someone hard enough and they will retaliate. Lets face it, Sam's had a bulls eye painted on his head all through this season, for players and fans a-like. His only saving grace is that he knows we love him. Even then, there's some in our own ranks who dislike him and think he's "not good enough to play for Wigan".
Would anyone have said anything if it wasn't caught on TV? Nope.
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| He's heading for a ban if the RFL diciplinary are consistent. This is what they said at a previous hearing : ' Whilst the panel can understand how the provocation implied may lead a person to react in the way in which you did what you must understand is that you are a high profile player in a high profile match and you are a role model to hundreds of youngsters in the game. This was an ugly incident . We therefore cannot overlook this incident.'
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| At least our players dont do it to their own fans
King and Eastmond proved that Saints and Wire have sh*t fans.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/aug/28/wigan-leeds-challenge-cup-final'"
This bit should end all the hysteria:
Quote =#800000There is no danger of Tomkins being hauled up before the weekly disciplinary hearing on Wednesday, as this will be a matter for the RFL's compliance department because it involves a possible breach of the Respect Code of Conduct – which requires players to show "respect for officials, for each other and for the spectators whose hard-earned money makes it all possible".
=#800000Such investigations tend to be lengthy, ruling out the possibility that the 22-year-old could be suspended for the Super League match at Warrington next Sunday, the winners of which will almost certainly secure the League Leaders' Shield for finishing top of the table. A modest fine after a hearing this autumn when the fuss has died down seems much more likely but even that will infuriate Wigan's players and supporters, who will point to the abuse their star man receives on a weekly basis, most notoriously when he was booed when playing for England in Leeds against the Exiles in June.'"
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| the article is very good,
and brings out an important point about respect,
he needs more respect, as much as the wigan fans hated longy, whenever he played for england we all got behind the team,
sam seems to get abuse when on international dutry, discusting,
all the players deserve more resepct, and sam more than any,
this whole thing, and with the crap media, and dissapointing bias on the tv, leaves a massive sour taste about the final,
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Briers was just telling them we would win by one point...'"
Sam was telling the Leeds fans Jeff Lima would score two tries!
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| Didn't Richie Myler gesture to us Wigan fans at the HJ last season?
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Quote ="pondmonster"Didn't Richie Myler gesture to us Wigan fans at the HJ last season?'"
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Quote ="pondmonster"Didn't Richie Myler gesture to us Wigan fans at the HJ last season?'"
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Makes for interesting reading.
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| If Sam was to be punished would it not be for bringing the game into disrepute?
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