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| Doesn't even come close to what i am feeling right now. Brilliant effort boys. Us and Warrington have done Super League proud. Congratulations to both of us.
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| That was awesome! The guys are absolutely out on their feet after one of the best defensive efforts ever! Great game, great atmosphere, great result! Hard to pick a MoM from such a team effort but Powell gets it for me.
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| Quote ="Geoff"That was awesome! The guys are absolutely out on their feet after one of the best defensive efforts ever! Great game, great atmosphere, great result! Hard to pick a MoM from such a team effort but Powell gets it for me.'"
Sam Powell was my pick, followed by Bateman.
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| It was a great team effort from 1-17 but, for me, Bateman was MOM by a mile. Played his usual take no prisoners game in attack and defence and ran his blood to water. Hopefully the whole team can get a little rest before the Chemics match on Friday (thanks for the short turnaround Sky )
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| No one had a bad game (although Gelling tried his best at times) but Bateman was my mom by a country mile - never stopped and was a handful in both attack and defense - the Cronulla payers must have been sick of him by the end.
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| Powell was my MOM not sure how they picked Williams. I was wondering what happens when Mclorum is fit what will happen. Bateman was outstanding he regularly out plays much bigger forwards. Gildart did well he kept Bird very quiet
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| Bateman is our best player by some distance
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| The defensive effort from all our players was immense and it had to be as we put ourselves under pressure due to errors.
I've watched the game back and I thought Bateman was out best with Farrell not far behind. Another player I'd give a mention to us Morgan Escare who I thought was terrific in tough conditions. There isn't much to him but he was terrier like in defence and cleaned up everything he needed to on the ground. Add in his goal kicking and his in game kicking and he looks a very rounded player. To think the guy is just settling in and doesn't speak English really bodes well for the future.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The defensive effort from all our players was immense and it had to be as we put ourselves under pressure due to errors.
I've watched the game back and I thought Bateman was out best with Farrell not far behind. Another player I'd give a mention to us Morgan Escare who I thought was terrific in tough conditions. There isn't much to him but he was terrier like in defence and cleaned up everything he needed to on the ground. Add in his goal kicking and his in game kicking and he looks a very rounded player. To think the guy is just settling in and doesn't speak English really bodes well for the future.'"
From what I saw yesterday, Escare has been a very good signing and, based on last seasons performances, it would/will be a shame when Sam replaces him if his form carries on. His attack has never been in question and he has electric pace but his defence yesterday was outstanding
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| Quote ="[Gareth"From what I saw yesterday, Escare has been a very good signing and, based on last seasons performances, it would/will be a shame when Sam replaces him if his form carries on. His attack has never been in question and he has electric pace but his defence yesterday was outstanding'"
I'm looking forward to watching him on drier pitches. I think on his showings so far Sam will be lucky to get back in straight away.He's certainly played better in the past couple of weeks then Sam did for us last season and he adds a kicking game and gives us a good goalkicker by the looks of things.
Maybe we'll shift Escare to the wing (which would be tough on Tierney) or we could potentially get Sam in the halves with Tommy Leuluai sharing the hooking role with Powell (although Micky Mac is due back around the same time). I doubt it, but maybe we'll just leave Sam out and make him wait for an opportunity.
If things like these are all we'll have to worry about though and I think we can be pretty chuffed. It's the rest of sueprleague that should be more worried then us.
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| Quote ="stpatricks"Powell was my MOM not sure how they picked Williams. I was wondering what happens when Mclorum is fit what will happen. Bateman was outstanding he regularly out plays much bigger forwards. Gildart did well he kept Bird very quiet'"
It was only watching the highlights last night that I realised that Powell kicked the final conversion from out wide!!
Had a great game. Micky Mac is no dead cert to regain that hooker spot!
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| I think when Sam is fit he walks straight back in, which will be tough for whoever loses out as a result. The one I'm not sure about is MM. How the hell can you justify dropping Powell when he goes the full 80, allowing another forward a place on the bench?
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Sam Powell was my pick, followed by Bateman.'"
Waney agrees with us, fwiw...
www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2017- ... ic-feeling
On Sam Powell.
He was the stand out player for me, playing the minutes he played and to be targeted like he was. You can target him as much as you want but heās got a heart the size of a lion and Iāve got Micky Mac to come back too.
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Sam Powell was my pick, followed by Bateman.'"
Waney agrees with us, fwiw...
www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2017- ... ic-feeling
On Sam Powell.
He was the stand out player for me, playing the minutes he played and to be targeted like he was. You can target him as much as you want but heās got a heart the size of a lion and Iāve got Micky Mac to come back too.
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Quote ="Geoff"Waney agrees with us, fwiw...
www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2017- ... ic-feeling
On Sam Powell.
He was the stand out player for me, playing the minutes he played and to be targeted like he was. You can target him as much as you want but heās got a heart the size of a lion and Iāve got Micky Mac to come back too.'"
I thought that Powell was man of the match by quite a distance. Not sure how MM can get his place back whilst Powell keeps on improving and can play 80 minutes virtually every game.
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On Sam Powell.
He was the stand out player for me, playing the minutes he played and to be targeted like he was. You can target him as much as you want but heās got a heart the size of a lion and Iāve got Micky Mac to come back too.'"
I thought that Powell was man of the match by quite a distance. Not sure how MM can get his place back whilst Powell keeps on improving and can play 80 minutes virtually every game.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"I thought that Powell was man of the match by quite a distance. Not sure how MM can get his place back whilst Powell keeps on improving and can play 80 minutes virtually every game.'"
options - we need cover and Sam/MM combined give you that. MM can also do a job as a squad forward and Sam as half back cover. Sam will need a break at some point in the season!
FWIW, I think Escare has fitted in remarkably well and certainly gives us options along the line. he defended well too, and as a kicker I think he'll go fine (looks a natural striker of the ball, so its just practice, practice, practice!)
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I'm looking forward to watching him on drier pitches. I think on his showings so far Sam will be lucky to get back in straight away.He's certainly played better in the past couple of weeks then Sam did for us last season and he adds a kicking game and gives us a good goalkicker by the looks of things.
Maybe we'll shift Escare to the wing (which would be tough on Tierney) or we could potentially get Sam in the halves with Tommy Leuluai sharing the hooking role with Powell (although Micky Mac is due back around the same time). I doubt it, but maybe we'll just leave Sam out and make him wait for an opportunity.
If things like these are all we'll have to worry about though and I think we can be pretty chuffed. It's the rest of sueprleague that should be more worried then us.'"
I would like Escare to get more of the ball and as you say when summer comes along I think his pace will become even more telling.
ST was for him pretty poor for the majority of last season and unless he finds his mojo can't see him displacing Escare particularly if his goal kicking continues to improve.
Escare could be a beltin signing for us and may just be what the doctor ordered if it means ST gets his act together.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"I would like Escare to get more of the ball and as you say when summer comes along I think his pace will become even more telling.
ST was for him pretty poor for the majority of last season and unless he finds his mojo can't see him displacing Escare particularly if his goal kicking continues to improve.
Escare could be a beltin signing for us and may just be what the doctor ordered if it means ST gets his act together.'"
I do think we'll see a much improved Sam Tomkins this year and he'll have to be. He's the ultimate competitor and I can see him ripping it up on his return. If not then he's in danger of not getting a game.
As for Escare it'll be interesting to see how he develops long term. He's got a one year deal currently and I'd already be prepared to extend it but ultimately I think the club will need to make sure he's settled in nicely and that he's happy. It must be difficult at times for him with him not being able to speak English and how he adapts to that could have a big bearing on his long term future.
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| It shows how poor th Catalan are when they drop a player like Escare when all he needed was a bit of confidence and defence coaching. He will be make a few mistakes but will be great for us.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"It shows how poor th Catalan are when they drop a player like Escare when all he needed was a bit of confidence and defence coaching. He will be make a few mistakes but will be great for us.'"
I read a Catalan fan saying it looks like we've bulked him up and they thought that was positive as it's helping him defensively.
At Leigh he was pretty quiet and my expectations weren't huge but I watched the Catalans friendly and was blown away. He's pretty much been the polar opppsite of what I thought we were signing. I expected a defensively weak, support play machine who probably wouldn't be able to link play and I certainly didn't expect a kicking game. He's in fact been solid as a rock in defence, he's bringing others in to play and he's kicking very well.
I'm just glad that we look to be developing him nicely because it will also help France and the game could do with a strong French team.
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| Quote ="MattyB"It was only watching the highlights last night that I realised that Powell kicked the final conversion from out wide!!
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I haven't seen it back yet, but on the night I thought I was him. Right footed kicker, yellow boots, and Escare was cuddling one of the other lads when the ball went over! Still got Escare as the kicker in the match reports too.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"I haven't seen it back yet, but on the night I thought I was him. Right footed kicker, yellow boots, and Escare was cuddling one of the other lads when the ball went over! Still got Escare as the kicker in the match reports too.'"
The full game is on YouTube for anyone who wants to see it.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"I haven't seen it back yet, but on the night I thought I was him. Right footed kicker, yellow boots, and Escare was cuddling one of the other lads when the ball went over! Still got Escare as the kicker in the match reports too.'"
A year ago all was gloom and doom as McIlorum was injured. Now Sam Powell has been hooker in a Grand Final win and a WCC win. He regularly does 80 minutes which Micky rarely managed. I'd say Powell has cemented his place. Micky will need to do well to win back a starting jersey. Of course he can come off the bench and cover 13 as well so things are certainly looking bright. And from what I've seen Josh Ganson is going to be a hell of a player if he continues his improvement. I believe Waney really rates him.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"A year ago all was gloom and doom as McIlorum was injured. Now Sam Powell has been hooker in a Grand Final win and a WCC win. He regularly does 80 minutes which Micky rarely managed. I'd say Powell has cemented his place. Micky will need to do well to win back a starting jersey. Of course he can come off the bench and cover 13 as well so things are certainly looking bright. And from what I've seen Josh Ganson is going to be a hell of a player if he continues his improvement. I believe Waney really rates him.'"
Would it be unthinkable to have Micky Mac outside the starting team and struggling to find a way back in?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I'm looking forward to watching him on drier pitches. I think on his showings so far Sam will be lucky to get back in straight away.He's certainly played better in the past couple of weeks then Sam did for us last season and he adds a kicking game and gives us a good goalkicker by the looks of things.
Maybe we'll shift Escare to the wing (which would be tough on Tierney) or we could potentially get Sam in the halves with Tommy Leuluai sharing the hooking role with Powell (although Micky Mac is due back around the same time). I doubt it, but maybe we'll just leave Sam out and make him wait for an opportunity.
If things like these are all we'll have to worry about though and I think we can be pretty chuffed. It's the rest of sueprleague that should be more worried then us.'"
I think that's a little unfair on Sam and a bit revisionist. He didn't play until mid-May and it took him a while to get going but there were definitely some very good performances from him until he picked up another knock, and even his last game against Warrington he was excellent.
Competition is great though so hopefully Escare can keep his form going and it gives Wane some selection headaches in the future, same goes for Macca and Powell.
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