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Not sure about Wanes comments,almost like he's pleased he's injured.Saying Manfredi can do things Charmley can't, im yet to see these things and I'm not holding my breath.

Wane has come out with some very strange comments recently! Lets just hope both Burgess and Manfredi stay fit for the next couple of months.

I'd have thought that it is an obvious case of bigging the guy up to give him confidence.

Shame about Josh, he's had a mare of a season what with getting carried off at Widnes, having Carney's palm print embedded on his face at Cas, hardly getting a pass worthy of the name from Gell and now this.

Let's hope he comes back stronger and quicker on the firm grounds come the end of April. Good chance for Manfredi though.

If Burgess can get back to something like last season and Manfredi makes a good impression, I would be tempted to let Josh go out to Workington for a couple of games at centre to help with his fitness. He played a lot of junior rugby at centre and in his loan spell at HKR at the beginning of his career, which created a good impression with the fans.

Apparently he's trotting out the old Ellgren era nonsense in the trade press this morning too:

"This is my home town club and we're the most famous club in the World, whether they like it or not in St Helens"

Some nice obsessed playing to the audience there. Anyone would think he's trying to convince people that his "Wiggun" through and through act makes him the right coach for the club . . . . .

This can't be true; he'd never say that. WE are supposed to be obsessed with THEM remember!

Whether you like him or not mate, it's no act.

Personally I love the guy, despite his failings, but I do find his so-called 'hatred' for Saints a bit cringeworthy.

Exactly my feelings too - nothing against Manfredi but Josh is special when he has a centre to give him some decent service. Gelling is a big strong unit, full of enthusiasm etc but wants to do everything himself and it's just not possible. Be a team player Anthony then we will all be happy

Better Wiggun than Sintellins i guess

Better to be defined for something you love than an obsessive compulsion about your enemies

He says it tongue in cheek though. Think most Sts fans understand this and I know Ian Rush and KC do.
Back on topic. Think even with some poor form, josh being out is a blow for us but as you said earlier, it's a massive chance for Dom.

You're going to be in trouble for leaking Wane's next press conference script. . . . .

Wane sold himself short.

He should have said Wigan ARE the most famous RL club in the world BECAUSE they have won more League titles and more Challenge Cups than any other club, AND are the ONLY club to go over to Australia and beat an Aussie club side, in fact they did it twice.



He's slipping in my estimation.

And look at the side Wigan had back then, and compare it with now. Edwards, Botica, Robinson, Farrell, Offiah, etc etc... Genuine world-class players throughout the side. Now, on a good day, we have one.

To be fair, I come in peace an all that. What super league clubs do have players that can be called genuinely world class, there certainly isn't many but I take your point about era an all that

Your absolutely right Rogues Wigan are the most famous side in the world ever as not one Australian club has ever managed to win any league titles,challenge cups or even any SL Grand Final wins, and i don't anticipate that any of their sides will ever manage to do so

Oh yes, absolutely; it's not just Wigan, could say that about all SL teams, one world-class player at the most, if they're lucky.

Agree. Manfredi in his previous appearances has been solid and not much more than that.

But what about the second win over there?

I think that's pretty harsh considering the game time he's had. He got a decent run in the side last time Charnley was injured and didn't look out of place IMO. He's got a very good tryscoring record, he's solid in defence and under the high ball. In any case, Charnley, and especially Burgess, have been far from "solid" so far this season. Manfredi replacing Josh is the least of our worries for this Friday based on our 2015 form to-date.

What/when is this second win of which you speak?

You have me thinking there Rogues, all I can think of at the present is when they had that 4 or 5 club competition against NRL teams quite a few years ago and I am just thinking it was on an home and away basis (some teams you played at home others away) could be completely wrong, but I cant check now I am going t watch the Liverpool match.

In the 1997 World Club Championship that included everyone we beat Canterbury home and away so I guess he means the away win against Canterbury.

According to Bilko's site the team that night was Paul, Andy Johnson, Connolly, Radlinski, Robinson, Wright, Smith, Hansen (Lee), Hall, Cowie, Haughton, Cassidy, Farrell Subs Holgate, Tallec, Cardiss, Koloi

Careful Rogues, you're almost sounding as desperate as Wane here!

What is with you lot needing to talk about the good old days all the time?