Last season he voted him coaches player of the year even after his stupid late shot on Laffranchi that ruled him out of the rest of the season and cost us dearly.

Now we have him acting skipper when he is in no form and a loose cannon as usual, the guy has no discipline and has gone backwards, but it's as if he knows his place is a cert.

We got rid of Higham who is easily a better player with better discipline..face fits again..??

Rogues loves him too. In fairness to Apeman who else is he supposed to pick ? Logan Tomkins gets ripped to bits by all the Wigan fans I know. Higham is a totally different type of player and left you lot ages ago.

McIlorum is one of our best players, we lose massive momentum when he is off the park

This.

How anyone can have a go at Micky Mac is beyond me.

When MM is on the field we look far more in control, when Logan comes on it always feels like a damage limitation exercise until he gets back on.

Having heard Wane speak about him I don't think he sees his "loose cannon" attributes as a negative. Not that he doesn't have a hundred other reasons to rate him as a player, but he certainly has a soft spot for lads who like a bit of biff.

I think MM needs to be careful though, it's easy to start believing all the hype about yourself and get a bit too big for your boots and start thinking you can get away with all sorts. Gaz Hock I'm looking at you.

What I don't get is why he makes Micky the captain then rotates him off after 20mins surely the skipper should be doing the full 80mins unless he is injured in my opinion especially when our other option is Logan Tomkins.

What a daft thread!

Class player, tough as nails and will prove his worth when it matters. Why do people get so upset and spooked by one defeat against a good side with 4 of our best players missing including the only two 'world class' players we have?

I'm all for getting miffed about next years prospects but picking holes in things that aren't there in the short term is ridiculous!

Last night went down hill after MM (and Taylor) went off. I would put him in above every other hooker in SL and I include Roby in that. MM is a very good hooker and his aggression is one of his best attributes.

Are you on the right thread?

Not with you?

Exactly
People complain we don't have an 'enforcer' in the pack and then complain Micky is a loose cannon
He's a solid player who don't take a step back and don't take no ****
Quality

Well the OP was asking why Wane "loves" MM despite his poor discipline, and you responded about something totally different, vis, people being spooked about one defeat and miffed about next years prospects.

Because the OP is one of many posts after last night bemoaning things that aren't issues in the short term. We have a cracking side when everyone plays but our best players are being rested. People don't seem to take that in to consideration though when bagging all the other players.

Lockers and Tomkins do indeed make the lads around them look better I suppose but the same can be said of Sinfield and Peacock at Leeds for example.

The point I'm trying to make is all this whining and moaning after last night (including this thread) is ridiculous in relation to this years prospects, they're still very good IMO but if people want to start a hundred thread panicking about next years chances I could understand it.

Hope that clears it up for you!

Why pick him as captain when he takes him off after 20 mins

After Piggy left and wasn't replaced by a marquee hooker there was much angst about Micky Mac not being ready and how someone else was needed. MM has stepped up to the mark, shown quality, shown he learned from piggy and has developed into a quality 9.
Agree he is prone to the odd moment of ill discipline but can't question his commitment or his place in the team.

McIlorum is one of our best players, we just need a decent stand in to come on when he needs a rest. Logan is not good enough.

FWIW I think Hansen wouldve been a better candidate for Captain last night, Mickey Mac is too much of a hot head to be captain.

Micky Mac is one of the first names on the team sheet and quite rightly so. When he goes off its noticeable in attack and defence. I'd play him for the full 80 in all the big games. People moaning about his discipline need to understand that you need aggressive horrible b4stards in your pack who play on the edge. I'd say our pack on the whole lacks this and is too nice, Micky provides a bit of fear factor that you need.

Give over, you are basically saying you can't be a good hooker without having ill discipline, which is . And to say anyone who "moans" about his discipline just doesn't understand is more .

I'd like to see you play with a busted knee......

He's not ill disciplined though, its a myth. How many yellows/reds has he had this year??? He's an aggressive player, he gets in his opposite numbers face and gets stuck in. I wouldn't swap him for any other hooker in SL personally.

Yes because that's what I said

. Where did I say to be a good hooker you need to have ill discipline? How about read a post properly before replying.

Based purely on the last 2 seasons , Shaun Lunt by plenty .

In your opinion.

If someone criticises him for lashing out at times and you say "yeah but you need horrible b4stards in your pack" then surely you are referring to that which was criticised as being a necessity, a need.