When we have 2 projects at centre and 2 at fullback why have we signed him? Really cannot understand it. He is poor in defence and average in attack.

Showed a bit if promise as a younger player but very average.

I'd be going for Tom Briscoe.

Didn't realise we had signed him?

Have we definitely signed him?

I agree he showed al lot of promise a couple of years ago when he was breaking through. It's fair to say he hasn't kicked on but then not many would in the current mess London find themselves in.

If he is coming to us it would be interesting to see how he develops under our staff and systems.

Doesn't solve the full back issue for next year though.

Id this confirmed?

If we have signed him I fully back the club. They have a track record to be proud of they will believe they can help him fulfill his early promise.

He's not kicked on at London but who would?

I agree with that and being coached under the quality of coaches we have should bring him on alot.

I do worry though just how poor he looked.

Defensively he is awful and that has been highlighted in the last two televised games. His read of whats in front of him is often wrong and leaves his team mates inside him exposed. He took his try well last night and came back well on the angle from Sowoods pass but that is nothing I wouldnt expect for a super league player. He should be a long way off a starting jersey if he has signed. Alot of work to do.

Me too!

Sarginson is only twenty years of age. He appears to have the raw talent, he had a superb game for London v Wigan a couple of years ago.
He reminds me very much of Stefan Ratchford in his versatility and running style. As a few have alluded to he looks poor defensively, but he's playing in a very poor side at the moment.
Would he go better with better players around him? Probably.
Is he worth taking a risk on? I would say yes if the salary is right.

I don't see another player in our junior ranks who has that flexibility to play at #1, #3, #4, #6 and #7.

Surely Sam Panapa must have had a son by now...

I don't see how we can judge anyone in that London team, even Soward looked crap against us. Different kettle of fish at Wigan, if we have signed him I'm looking forward to seeing him play for us.

But is that necessary? We have Hampshire and Tierney who can play 1, Gelling, Thornley, Burgess and (at a push) Hughes who can play 3/4, and we have Hampshire, Powell and Williams in the halves. Who cares if no one man covers all of those positions?

Perhaps we will be selling more players so IL can line his pockets.....

the problem defensively isnt that he plays in a poor team. He makes bad reads and leaves his team exposed. That is his choice not one forced on him by his team mates. He needs to learn how to read the game, study the opposition and put that into match practice. Attacking wise he is exciting but he needs educating.

That's the problem. The raw talent will stagnate and wither in the London team, being poorly coached and motivated and playing with Aussies out for a holiday. Look at Chubb, now 25 and going nowhere. 20 is a good age to still be coached and moulded in the right environment.

Chris Taylor would give you a run for your money!!

Yes, and educating is something we seem to do particularly well at, judging by the youngsters we're producing! At his age, it would be unfair to expect the finished product. He's younger than either Thornley or Gelling, and IMO has more potential than either of them.

Looks very poor IMO. His defence in recent weeks has been nothing short of utter shocking. He's playing in poor side so can't help but IMO he's not Wigan class player.

I hope you sign him

In all fairness, Sam Tomkins would look awful at London. In the past iv been imoressed with Sarginson, he has raw natural talent, lately he's been poor defensively. Hopefully its nothing our coaching staff cant sort.

I remember similar stuff being posted when we signed a certain George Carmont.

Possibly playing in a poor team is the reason for his poor form but that doesn't stop him making one on one tackles.

His defensive stats are no worse than Jordan Turner. Gelling gave him a torrid time at Saints a couple of weeks back.

I've never said Turner is great in defence and pretty unsure what he's got to do with this thread?

I'm just posting IMO he's not good enough for Wigan. Both Goulding and Gelling are better players IMO.

That may well be the case, but as has already been said, he can play a variety of postions across the back line. Im not sure what position he will play, but, I trust our coaching staff with whoever we sign, they haven't done a bad job the last few seasons. We got slated for signing Blake Green, and in my opinion he's been outstanding this season for us, same goes for Flower and Dudson, when these 2 were signed I remember a thread on VT absoulutely crucifying Wigan for signing them and saying it was the beginning of the end.

Just checked the stats, your correct, Turner has missed 4 more tackles than sargison in 2013. On the flip side tho, Jordan Turner had made 171 more tackles than Sargison.

Attack wise, Turner had made double the clean breaks, double the try assists, made more meters, double the offloads etc.

Both are playing in poor teams.

Think I'd take Turner over him my old friend.