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| Same front six to start perhaps, er how many through our system, er just the six, I think they will find the Foreign Legions will be coming over the hill in numbers. ( with plastic sheep )
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| They just don't have a clue do they
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| its almost as funny as northhampton saint trying to argue player for player st helens are better and the only reason we won is because of maguire coaching last season.
on a side note alot of fans from other teams are really trying to put a downer or some kind of spin on anything we are good at lately, such as leeds fans getting annoyed that we are playing better than them this season or example above (northhampton saint) or hudds trying to say we have no british talent. warrington fans have piped down abit this season, tho probably not after beating catalans. i guess it just shows they are feeling treatend by wigan this season.
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| It's amazing the chip some of the Giants fans have on their shoulders! You'd think a club that was propping up the league for years on end would have a bit more respect for a club like Wigan who've actually played a huge part in getting them to where they are now. Some of their best players are Wigan produced and their best youngsters are produced by other clubs. It's great to see them giving English players a chance but it's laughable if they truely believe they're some sort of machine churning out local Huddersfield juniors!
We don't need to defend our policy as our line up speaks for itself!
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| That was my post and I'm from Wigan !
It's just a statement of fact. Over the years Wigan have had many foreign players. It's not having a go at the youth development system at Wigan. i'm sure many other teams fans have that view.
For example when was the last time Wigan fielded a 1-13 of Uk players ? I tried to think about that one and had to back to late 1982 maybe before Graeme West arrived. I can come up with (but this is based on memory so may not be correct).
1 Barry Williams
2 Dennis Ramsdale
3 David Stephenson
4 Colin Whitfield
5 Henderson Gill
6 Martin Foy
7 Jimmy Fairhurst
8 Glyn Shaw
9 Nicky Kiss
10 Danny Campbell
11 Brian Julliffe
12 Mick Scott
13 John Pendlebury/Shaun Wane
But even that still leaves Danny Campbell.
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| Quote ="wigsey"That was my post and I'm from Wigan !
It's just a statement of fact. Over the years Wigan have had many foreign players. It's not having a go at the youth development system at Wigan. i'm sure many other teams fans have that view.
For example when was the last time Wigan fielded a 1-13 of Uk players ? I tried to think about that one and had to back to late 1982 maybe before Graeme West arrived. I can come up with (but this is based on memory so may not be correct).
1 Barry Williams
2 Dennis Ramsdale
3 David Stephenson
4 Colin Whitfield
5 Henderson Gill
6 Martin Foy
7 Jimmy Fairhurst
8 Glyn Shaw
9 Nicky Kiss
10 Danny Campbell
11 Brian Julliffe
12 Mick Scott
13 John Pendlebury/Shaun Wane
But even that still leaves Danny Campbell.'"
We fielded an all English 1-13 against Manly. Westy was on the bench but never came on.
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| Excellent I was at the Manly game and didn't recall that.
That's still 25 years ago (rather Worryingly - seems much more recent).
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| I feel like a tramp has just told me i stink Some of the crap that people come out with about us is priceless.
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| who cares how many overseas players we have as long as we play by the rules of the RFL. If we can have 5 and they good enough to pull on the Cherry and White jersey then play them. Teams have to play to a salary cap, if this means having to find overseas players to fill certain positions because a) our own young players are not quite ready for superleague. b) there are no UK based players available as they are under contract elsewhere or c) The UK based players available want too much as a salary and will not fit in team under the cap.
Remember that the management team are in place to put the best squad on the field they can, not to appease someone else's fans who only have 4 players from their own academy in the players listed by squad no. 1 - 20
Is it our fault we produce more Academy players that get to superleague level than we can accommodate in the squad due to salary cap and the player wanting regular 1st team games
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| Quote ="wigsey"That was my post and I'm from Wigan !
It's just a statement of fact. Over the years Wigan have had many foreign players. It's not having a go at the youth development system at Wigan. i'm sure many other teams fans have that view.
For example when was the last time Wigan fielded a 1-13 of Uk players ? I tried to think about that one and had to back to late 1982 maybe before Graeme West arrived. I can come up with (but this is based on memory so may not be correct).
1 Barry Williams
2 Dennis Ramsdale
3 David Stephenson
4 Colin Whitfield
5 Henderson Gill
6 Martin Foy
7 Jimmy Fairhurst
8 Glyn Shaw
9 Nicky Kiss
10 Danny Campbell
11 Brian Julliffe
12 Mick Scott
13 John Pendlebury/Shaun Wane
But even that still leaves Danny Campbell.'"
I have only one question in reply:
Why the hell WOULD we field an "all English 1-13 or 1-17" other than for injury reasons?
The rules of the comp allow a certain number of overseas players and we work within those rules.
If a player that we can get from abroad is better than a (usually far mor expensive) UK equivalent, then we have a DUTY to go for that player before considering the UK guy.
Wigan play RL to win - We do NOT play "for the good of UK players".
Please tell me who we should replace Finchy with, right now, who is English?
What about Tommy?
Pat?
Thought not.
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| Why on earth would Hudds fans criticise a Wigan team that uses foreign players within the rules of the game ?
With the crowd they had at the weekend, they ought to be criticising their own fans, or lack of them, for not turning up.
What was their attendance at the weekend ?
You'd think they had 'enough on their plate' without criticising others.
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| Quote ="fleabag"Why on earth would Hudds fans criticise a Wigan team that uses foreign players within the rules of the game ?
With the crowd they had at the weekend, they ought to be criticising their own fans, or lack of them, for not turning up.
What was their attendance at the weekend ?
You'd think they had 'enough on their plate' without criticising others.'"
just looked on Sporting life results
Attendance 2574.........utterly abysmal.......
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| We could well be down a couple of props come Friday. Lauaki as we all know tuck a blow to the head and Prescott picked up a knee injury during the Saints game. Assuming both are out, which could be a possibility as there's no point in risking those that aren't 100%. It leaves Dudson, Crosby and Spencer as our back up. Unfortunately Flower aggravated his hamstring last week for a second time.
They've got a huge pack Huddersfield, and I'd hate to see us try and tackle them with only three props in the 17.
Watching them against London I think Gelling could well have a field day under the highball when up against McGillvary, who was shaky under the high ball to say the least.
We'll have to be tight around the ruck as we were against Saints to repel Robinson from causing us problems. Or we could just get Lockers to sort him out again.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"who cares how many overseas players we have as long as we play by the rules of the RFL. If we can have 5 and they good enough to pull on the Cherry and White jersey then play them. Teams have to play to a salary cap, if this means having to find overseas players to fill certain positions because a) our own young players are not quite ready for superleague. b) there are no UK based players available as they are under contract elsewhere or c) The UK based players available want too much as a salary and will not fit in team under the cap.
Remember that the management team are in place to put the best squad on the field they can, not to appease someone else's fans who only have 4 players from their own academy in the players listed by squad no. 1 - 20
Is it our fault we produce more Academy players that get to superleague level than we can accommodate in the squad due to salary cap and the player wanting regular 1st team games'"
YES!!!
Its totally unacceptable and we should be ashamed of ourselves. Lenegan OUT!!!
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"We could well be down a couple of props come Friday. Lauaki as we all know tuck a blow to the head and Prescott picked up a knee injury during the Saints game. '"
In the video interviews after the match, Hansen reckoned Lauaki would be ok.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"YES!!!
Its totally unacceptable and we should be ashamed of ourselves. Lenegan OUT!!!'"
And we are only top of the league and still in the cup after easily defeating Saints. Disgusting. Lenegan out! Ape out! Uncle Joe's Mintballs out! Pies out! George Formby out!
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| We need to address this!!!!!!
We have almost as many foreign players as Huddersfield have fans....
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| I think Lauaki will be fine with what was basically a whack to his gob.
If Prescott is out then Dudson will step up and Lima and Mossop will play longer minutes.
No issues really.
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| dont be silly now boys and girls, i dont think any huddersfield fan -( oh sorry we dont have any now after 1 poor crowd in the cup unlike every other team who post massive attendances in the cup)- would disagree with wigans youngsters.
a few years ago,maybe with the likes of lam,hoffman,tim smith,phelps,roberts,riddell etc keepign young lads out of the frame, but over the last 2/3 years wigan have shown the way to go with giving the kids a chance, and are looking very impressive for it.it can only be good for the game as a whole if wigan are producing top class youngsters.
dont let one tongue in cheek comment start a huddersfield bashing, im sure most giants fans will applaud your development system.
however i hope they all have absolute shockers on friday
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| Hi i have a spare ticket for sale for fridays game in the home section, if anyone still hasn't bought their ticket and planning on paying on the day and doesn't mind sitting in the home section i have a spare ticket for sale for 10 pound which is a saving of 11 pound if you were to pay on the day.
PM if intersted, thanks
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Like this?
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ROAD KILL!!!!!
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"ROAD KILL!!!!!'"
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Like this?
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that was a blow to the chest..........well any normal players chest, just unfortunate he happened to be tackling one of Snow Whites companions at the time
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