Many people will disagree with me here I'm sure but I thought he was our best player by an absolute mile last night, and has been for most of the season.
The way he runs the ball in combined with his quality of pass is something that not many second rowers possess.
I know he gives away penalties and has the odd daft moment but I'm willing to accept that for the bit of X Factor that he gives us.
I'd say he's right up there, if not better than where he was before his ban.
Superb. Destined for England mid season v Exiles, if not the best SR in Super League at present.

He was the best player out there IMO, and cemented why he's the best backrower in the comp. Far too hot to handle at times. Westwood's good but Hock's better!

Just wish we would instruct someone to follow him whenever he has the ball.

90% of his offloads that dont come off are his teammates fault IMO.

True, but for a big guy is is rather quick...

I dont think anyone would disagree with the OP. In the past I have been as critical as anyone with Hock in regards to his discipline and brainfarts but I now realise that is part of the package and you will never change or completely eradicate it, as much as I would like to. On his day he is unstoppable and has been in great form this season and he adds something to our pack that the other forwards, no matter how solid and depenadable they may be, dont. He is a player that frightens the Aussies and should be a shoe in for the England team.

Hock is world-class and can be anything he wants to be. One of the most talented forwards this club has produced.

Sadly though as good as he can be, he can also make some poor decisions. Under better coaching from an early age and he may have had that eradicated from his game.

Having said that he was still our most potent threat all night.

I don't agree woth this. I think for the first 30 minutes that Hock was almost unplayable. A non factor for the rest of the game though. Westwood is a consistent performer for most of the match. I think that is what seperates them to be honest. The main thing is that they're both english and great players.

Thought Hock was outstaning last night.

From our point of view I was happier when he was off the pitch.

Not that many disagreeing, he's getting plenty MoM votes.

Nope sorry don't agree.

Incredibly powerful and skilful but is too much of a risk. Gives far too much away to the opposition and I refer to the whole of this season in that, not just last night.

If I had a choice between him and a more reliable, solid 2nd rower like a Harrison Hansen - it would be Hansen all day for me.

Magnificent!

Hes one hell of a handful and some of his offloads you wonder how he gets the ball away. IMO hes starting to show signs of being better than before his ban.

Before I embarass myself by responding can somebody confirm that this isn't one of them "fishing" threads.

If you don't know, nobody does...

and at 9pm he will be in the Brocket turning water into wine, unbelievable some of the pro Hock comments on here, fair enough he was pretty awesome in attack but he did make several mistakes and gave away a couple penalties yet he is still treated like a god by some on here

He shouldn't have to instruct them. We can see that Hock tries to offload every time.

Brian McTigue used to tell his backs in his day, "just follow me , you'll get some tries".

Brian McTigue was in a different class to Hock,even though I can see what Hock is trying to do.
The only difference it was very rare that one of Macs short passes to a supporting player failed to pay off. It was either Dave Bolton or Roy Evans who reaped the benifit,Mac knew when to pass and when not to try the impossible.
Fleabag I am surprised that people on here can still talk about Mac,but having seen your photo in your profile I can understand .

Cheers. (Are you a man of the cloth by the way)>

I love watching hock play. I'd put him in above any other 2nd row at Wigan bar none! HH is dependable but hock is unpredictable and that frightens teams. They don't know how to play him. The pens usually come from aggression and that's the backbone of his game. The majority of the time it's controlled but occasionally it's not. I can live with one or two each game for the good he does!

BIG BEAN.. dont you ever give up on HOCK hahahha,, so will half the wigan team and warrrington turning water to wine lol.. you just hate the fact that hes playing so well and people love him..you should really try talking to the guy face to face..instead of blabbering your hate for him behind your little pc..thats the way HOCK plays you wont change him. and like its been said on here,, our players know what he does they should back him up.. but i for one want him in the team and not agaist me... and i think a few more would agree there..so get off the lads back and give it rest.. yout getting boring now

The avatar is indeed me, on a bad day. Man of the cloth ? Well I was an alter boy at St Cuthberts briefly, does that count ?

Hocks just pure entertainment. Good or bad something is going to happen and our games are all the better with the lad playing.

As for last night I thought he had as many poor moments as good ones but it's not dull. Overall he's having a great year and I love watching him play.

where have i shown hate for him in that post? didn't i say he was pretty awesome in attack? he made a few errors yet another poster is saying it's the rest of the teams fault because nobody backs him up, was commenting more about the other comments than Hock

so your saying if your playing and we had played with you or seen you for many years and we know you like to offload.. and you was running down the field.. and we didnt follow you.. it would be your fault not ours, or even just be prepared for the unexpected from you ??? Hmmmmmm ok..

nobody knows what anybody is thinking, if it is a set move then the player who was suppose to receive the ball is at fault, but how is anybody suppose to know when and where Hock is going to offload, if Hock has the ball then isn't it his responsibility to retain possession, offloading the ball to fresh air is nobody's fault than the person who threw it, no matter who the player is, this site is amazing at times, a few years ago you couldn't say a bad word about Lockers, he was untouchable even when her had done wrong, it seems that Hock has now taken over the mantle as the great untouchable, if a player has done wrong then it should be ok to speak of it and btw i hav e no hatred for Hock, i have even had him in my top 3 for a few games this season, my original problem with him was the fact he did what he did and still came away with a shiny new contract, i hope that if the same sort of incident happens again then the offender would be shown the door, imo it will happen again at some point, somebody will be stupid enough and i DON'T mean it will be Hock

Now, now Medlocke! Don't even go there. You, and many others, had plenty bad to say about Lockers. It's just that time, and the fact that he is the quality player many of us said he was, has proven you to be wrong! I'm still keeping my eye on you, you know! (aka Flash)